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A Catholic forum poster constantly claim the INC is a business but of course it’s an empty claim because he could not provide a single evidence of such claim. So I went out casually to set the record straight and prove that between the INC and and RCC, it is the Catholic church which is a business. Here’s what I found out in two hours.
What is a business?
What is a business anyway? Specifically, what does business mean. By definition, business means purposeful activity. In that sense the INC, and all religions including the RCC can be considered businesses because quite simply they’re in the business of religion. But that is not what the Catholic poster is saying. It’s not hard to figure out that he’s implying the INC is in the money making business. Of course we have yet to see a single evidence of such accusation. What about the RCC? Is it in the business of making money? Let’s list the ways in which the RCC is making money. And away we go …
Investments
Porn Corrupts! Say no to porn.
Investing in the production of porn. “The Christian Brothers are one of the largest investors of Catholic institutional money in the world. They invest billions of dollars for over 1,000 Catholic “dioceses, religious institutes, educational institutions and health care organizations.”
“the seamiest and steamiest hardcore porn films are brought into our living rooms and hotel rooms everyday through the investments of a veritable who’s who of Catholic religious groups.”
Of all the ways the RCC can make money, they chose porn as one.
Of course it’s not all porn. While other Christian based investment instruments exclude gambling, casinos and alcohol, the RCC variety does not! “the Christian Values ETF weeds out any investments related to abortion, alcohol, tobacco, gambling, violent media, pornography, and fetal stem-cell applications. The denominational ETFs are similarly focused but slightly alter their investing philosophies according to the groups they set out to represent. For example,the Catholic Values ETF doesn’t exclude alcohol or gambling stocks”
What else?
Tourism revenue
Queue at the Vatican Museum.
“Tourism is one of the principal sources of revenue in the economy of the Vatican City. It is a popular destination for tourists, especially Christians, wishing to see the Pope“.
“Tourism in Vatican City also plays a key role in the state’s economy. Some important tourist attractions in Vatican City include Basilica of St. Peter’s, Sistine Chapel, Vatican museums, and Vatican libraries. Travelers to Vatican City adds to its economy by purchasing souvenirs, postage stamps, church publications, and coins. Tourists also contribute money to Vatican City’s economy by paying admission charges for visiting museums. Vatican museums can accommodate more than 20,000 visitors on a daily basis.”
The cost of admission to the Vatican Museum is 18 euros which come at least 360,000 euros daily. That’s a lot of money!
Fees from service and ceremonies
The “largest overall source of income however is from Peter’s Pence (donations made by members of the church to support the Holy See), which in 2007 totaled $79,837,843“. “The Vatican said annual donations from churches worldwide, the so-called Peter’s Pence, were down to almost $75.8 million from $79.8 million in 2007“.
“The fee for weddings at the Basilica (of Baltimore, MD) is $1,500. A non-refundable deposit of $250, due at scheduling, is required to reserve the church. The balance should be paid at least one month prior to the wedding date. The $1,500 fee does not include fees for the organist, vocalist, other musicians, flowers, or your offering to the priest or deacon.”
And that’s the result of my quick and dirty research on how the RCC is in the business of making money. I hope you enjoyed it.
sources:
www.newoxfordreview.org
www.bbc.co.uk
www.fool.com
www.eturbonews
vatican.va
cnn.com
huffingtonpost.com
baltimorebasilica.org
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sir, please check this out:
http://formerthings.com/roman_church.htm
Watch and learn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WujKBJc_yMg
The video is hilarious! Have you listened to the claims made in that video? A trip to a local library would reveal those claims baseless. Just watch that part where a baby is being baptized by pouring water on it’s head. Find me a verse in the bible where Christians were baptized that way. Or how about the mass? Even your own Catholic Catechism states the mass was invented. Too funny.
Just wanted to let you know that I’m praying for you and I understand your lack of understanding towards our beliefs and practices. One of the many important things I’ve learned from the Pope is to respect other people’s religion and beliefs. Your accusations against the Catholic Church is pretty harsh and strong and totally baseless. I can tell your lack of true knowledge of our Catholic faith. It’s my duty as Christian to help enlighten you but can’t be hold accountable if you refuse to. But God loves you and I know that someday, just like what He did to Dr. Scott Hahn and many others, you too will be enlightened. When that comes, please be open and hardened not your hearts because God will amaze and surprise you.
Hi Viel,
Thanks but it would take a lot more than just prayer to convince me that your Catholic church is even Christian. Not one of your dogmas resemble any Christian doctrine.
Now your Pope is preaching respect for other people’s belief. Rewind to after the death of the Apostles up to even 1521 and you’ll see that that respect is non existent. You do know that the Roman Church forcibly converted natives, right?
I’d invite you to also open your heart to the truth and awaken from the sleep you’re into now.
Have a nice day and keep reading this blog! Read this one: The Trinity Doctrine
You don’t know anything and you are not an authority to speak about what the Catholic faith is all about because obviouly you are good in making things up. Your argument is baseless, mostly guessing, and pure hearsay. I was referring to our beloved Pope John Paul. Catholic means universal christianity and as you can see (that is if you’ve been to any of our Church) Jesus’ image is all over our Church. The Catholics published the first Bible and Jesus is our Lord and Savior and I am speaking as a Catholic. I can’t say anything anymore because it’s really God’s business to enlighten you. A person who is living in the dark will never see the light unless it’s coming from above.
Seriously, how can you say that? I’ve cited my sources and that’s much much more than what you fellow Catholics claim against me and my religion. All you need to do is go to those website and do a search.
As I’ve said, the Catholic church is not as Christian as you think. Christians follow the teachings of Christ. If you examine the teachings of the Catholic church, you’ll find a church totally opposite that which the Lord Jesus and his Apostles teach during their time. Let’s look at one teaching about God. How do the teachings stack up? Let’s see:
Jesus and the Apostles: One God the Father in Heaven.
Iglesia ni Cristo: One God the Father in Heaven.
Roman Catholic church: Father is God, so is Jesus and the Holy Spirit. The trinity doctrine.
Judge for yourself.
FROM RESBAK:
“Jesus and the Apostles: One God the Father in Heaven.
Iglesia ni Cristo: One God the Father in Heaven.
Roman Catholic church: Father is God, so is Jesus and the Holy Spirit. The trinity doctrine.”
Well,then why on earth do you call Jesus Christ as LORD?
LORD in Tagalog is “PANGINOON”.
Didn’t the Gospel of Mark 12:28 said:
“Jesus replied, “The first is this: ‘Hear, O Israel! The LORD our GOD is LORD ALONE!”
Then how on earth will you square this passage on why you call Jesus LORD if he was just a man?
why? because God made Jesus Lord. read your bible.
the verse is Mark 12:29 and it’s rendered like this: Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is:’Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one.
are you can see, Jesus has a Lord and it is God.
FROM RESBAK:”he verse is Mark 12:29 and it’s rendered like this: Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is:’Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one.
are you can see, Jesus has a Lord and it is God.”UNQUOTE
BY that logic,then when you apply LORD to Jesus,then You are making Him God since the title LORD is ONLY APPLIED to GOD!
Have you read this?
“I am the LORD, this is my name; MY GLORY I give to NO other..” – ISAIAH 42:8
AND CORRELATE IT WITH JOHN 17:5 -
“Now glorify me, Father, with you, with the GLORY that I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN.”
The verse explicitly says that “I had with you BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN”.
Now what can you deduce from this verse?
I bet you’ll come up with INC’s own version of the verse in a different way.
By the same token, if the word “Lord” means “God” then it would mean God the Father made Jesus God. If that is true, the I go back to the same question that you have no answer for, which is if Jesus is God, God the Father should have known about him. God does not and God is allknowing, therefore there is no other God.
FROM RESBAK:”why? because God made Jesus Lord. read your bible.”
BY THAT LOGIC,JESUS IS GOD!
If the Iglesia Ni Cristo is the TRUE CHURCH of Christ,then where were its ministers when the first Council of Constantinople convened in A.D. 381 proclaiming that:
“”We believe . . . in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, BORN of the Father BEFORE all ages, light of light, true God of true God, BEGOTTEN, NOT MADE, consubstantial with the Father”
How come NO INC minister (IF THEY ARE INDEED THE TRUE CHURCH)were present to denounce that council for heresy?
You see,Christ did not depart in this world and left all his teachings to no one but to the apostles. The apostles transferred their authority to successors and they were bishops.
This is evidenced presently to the current Pontiff,who has an unbroken succession that would trace its roots back to the apostles and this is PROVEN THROUGH HISTORY to which NO INC CAN EVER DISPUTE!
You said “BY THAT LOGIC,JESUS IS GOD!”.
If you believe that then you need to explain why God the Father, who you say made Jesus God, does not know any other God. Good luck!
What you should be asking is whether the teachings of your church fathers in those councils agree with what the Apostles teach. They don’t.
One of the more interesting developments in Christianity is the Council of Nicea of 325 AD wherein Christianity was wed to the religion of Nimrod and Semiramis (RNS). The Christian pastors were killed or threatened with death if they didn’t vacate their positions and the leaders of the religion of RNS were put in their place. It was all over for the real Christians by the time 381 rolled around and the robes of satan were passed on to the roman emperor.
Inculcated into what then was carried on as Christianity were the customs and beliefs of the RNS. Nimrod was deified and became god, Nimrod was resurrected from the dead, Nimrod was born of a virgin and he was one part of the trinity. All that came from RNS. The RNS became known then as Christianity and then became the Holy Roman Church.
Jesus wasn’t God. The meaning of Christ: anointed descendant of David. Jesus had to be a descendant of David to be Christ. All kings descended from King David were referred to as Messiah or Christ. Matthews first few verses give the genealogy of Jesus back to David through his Father Joseph who was his father according to the flesh. Jesus could not be a descendant of David if he was descended from God as God is not, nor could be, a descendant of David. Jesus said “no one has seen God”, “why callest thou me good, only God alone is good!”
A priest once told me that anyone who goes through seminary to become a priest is aware of the afore mentioned information.
All that was ascribed to Nimrod was then, after 325 AD, used to describe Jesus. When Luther, Calvin and King Henry VIII left the Roman Church you would think they would have left the RN behind too but they did not. They lugged with them the deification of Jesus, resurrection from the dead and the trinity.
The Triune Conciouness of God.
Three in one. In this realm it is not possible. With Jesus everything is possible. Begotten not made, one with the father, son and spirit.
The Triune Concsiuoness of God. They are three in one.
CS Lewis was right – The universe was made from the laughter of the Trinity. They are three in one.
Hope this helps.
The trinity is an invention of the Catholic church and borrows from pagan beliefs. The word itself, nor it’s concept cannot be found in the bible.
Your ignorance is bliss, if you want more with evidence and not only talking PLEASE contact me.
any way, agape.
LOL. you’re funny
‘The only reason that Jews are in Pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks.”
—Al Goldstein, CEO of Screw Magazine & Film
Protest-ants and Jews knew the final empire in the scriptures will be 100% Roman Catholic, so the true gospel can be preached to the entire world before JEW Anti Christ.
this is why they have so viruently attacked the Roman Catholic church its; peoples its monasteries its governments, its properties.
We are called by the heretics schismatics and apostates the whore of babylon when they well know the whore is judaism/ ocult judaism.
I don’t know why people try to use the bible to justify anything. There are hundreds of direct contradictions in the bible.
If people would read The Curse Of Ignorance by Arthur Findlay, then the Catholic church would be exposed for the cruel tyrant that it has always been.
The people who run the churches and by this I mean all religions are simply power hungry men who abuse the power given to them by ignorant people who cannot think clearly.
Historically, churches have been opposed to education and the production of books. Churches do not want people thinking for themselves. It is just that simple.
Grow up, stop living in fairyland, face the world as it REALLY is not as you want it to be.
Okay people, look at the history books, who initiated the “Holy Inquisition”? The catholic church, they killed millions of people for not joining their faith, why? They burn people to death accusing them of being a witch? Uhhh is there such thing as withces?
What about your deacon named Arman Zaragoza Sebastian who posted porn on a debate forum?
what about it?