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		<title>The Roman Catholic Church in total disarray!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fallen! Powerful Babylon has fallen!&#8221;</p> <p>This was the pronouncement in Revelations 18! And it applies perfectly to what is currently happening to the Roman Catholic Church, as is in total disarray. Gone are the days when the empire ruled over all men. It has now become just a shell of what it was used to [...]]]></description>
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<p>This was the pronouncement in Revelations 18! And it applies perfectly to what is currently happening to the Roman Catholic Church, as is in total disarray<em><strong>. </strong></em>Gone are the days when the empire ruled over all men. It has now become just a shell of what it was used to be<strong><em>.</em></strong></p>
<p>The Roman Catholic Church, long used to force its will on its members is currently finding it hard to make them tow the line. In the Philippines, the Catholic hierarchy led by the CBCP<strong>, </strong>is finding itself the minority in the fight against RH bill. The RH bill, otherwise known as Comprehensive Policy on Responsible Parenthood, Reproductive Health, and Population and Development aims to provide education and aid to families needing to control their family. For reasons clear only to them, the Catholic hierarchy is against population control, citing their misunderstanding of scriptures. Against the Catholic hierarchy is the majority of their flock who overwhelmingly supports the bill. Unable to convinced their members of their stand on the matter, the Catholic hierarchy has engaged in seditious and terrorist methods from threats of excommunication to denial mass to outright seditious action such as not paying taxes. If someone says the Catholic hierarchy in the Philippines is a disconnected uninformed group of grumpy old men, I&#8217;m inclined to agree.</p>
<p>But wait, the Catholic leadership in the Philippines learned from someone higher up on the subtle art of knowing nothing. Just recently, the Vatican issued a guideline concerning priest committing sexual crimes against Catholics. It was immediately dismissed as inadequate. In another statement in what amounted to a <em>palusot</em>, the Vatican blamed someone else, not the priest, for priest sex abuse. Meanwhile, a young man abused by a Catholic priest sued two popes, Benedict XVI and the soon to be Catholic &#8220;saint&#8221; John Paul II holding them accountable for the abuse.</p>
<p>Make you just want to clean up.</p>
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		<title>Eliseo Soriano: Case Unclosed!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[ad#inline-ad-in-article]<br /> &#8220;Bro Eli Soriano. Currently in the middle of a controversy&#8221;. So was the introduction of Arnold Clavio in his program Case Unclosed. He was talking about the <a title="Wanted: Soriano, Eliseo" href="http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2008/50/2008_13250.asp" target="_blank">fugitive televangelist Eliseo Soriano</a> of Ang Dating Daan.</p> <p>It was 3 years ago when one of his subordinates charged him with [...]]]></description>
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<div id="attachment_721" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://resbak.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/case_unclosed.jpeg"><img src="http://resbak.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/case_unclosed-300x153.jpg" alt="Case Unclosed by Arnold Clavio" title="case_unclosed" width="300" height="153" class="size-medium wp-image-721" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Case Unclosed by Arnold Clavio</p></div>&#8220;Bro Eli Soriano. Currently in the middle of a controversy&#8221;. So was the introduction of Arnold Clavio in his program Case Unclosed. He was talking about the <a title="Wanted: Soriano, Eliseo" href="http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2008/50/2008_13250.asp" target="_blank">fugitive televangelist Eliseo Soriano</a> of Ang Dating Daan.</p>
<p>It was 3 years ago when one of his subordinates charged him with homosexual rape and sodomy.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It was my spiritual birthday. He summoned me and I went thinking he was going to give me a gift. As it turned out, that was the gift. The same thing he did to the previous year.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This was the revelation of the subordinate, with sadness still reflected in his eyes. One can only imagine the grief victims of rape must carry.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It was in May of 2000 when he summoned me to his room. I was shocked at what followed. At that time I couldn&#8217;t resist his advances. There is a teaching in Ang Dating Daan which says the messenger of God does not commit sin, whatever he does to you. At that time, I was really terrified of him and there is a teaching in Ang Dating Daan that one must Soriano him at all times. Obey him,  otherwise you&#8217;ll be cursed. Something really really bad will happen to you if you disobey this supposed messenger of God.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Rape was the charge. It is true, or is it a case of libel?&#8221; continues Clavio. &#8220;The case cannot proceed if the accused is not present because the accused needs to be arraigned in court&#8221; so say the lawyers of the subordinate. The subordinate thinks that if Soriano was in the Philippines, he will surely be in jail based on the evidences against him.</p>
<p>Clavio said he tried to contact Eli Soriano or any of his representatives to get their side of the story but did not get any response.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;If I don&#8217;t fight and speak up a lot of people will be in danger, and they need to know what he really is and that he is not sinless and he is not true.&#8221; the subordinate continues.</p></blockquote>
<p>Soriano is a registered Brazilian resident and is currently seeking Brazilian citizenship. Brazil has no extradition agreement with Brazil. The case is held in court because Eli Soriano will not face his accuser. His next arraignment is August 11, 2009 at 8:30 am.</p>
<p>The Philippines anti-rape law Republic Act No. 8353 describes rape as any forceful act by man or woman against another.</p>
<p>Although Soriano denies any involvement or wrong doing, his appearance is the only way to clear things up.</p>
<p><font color="white">95th anniversary iglesia ni cristo</font><br />
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		<title>Ivatan blogger unravels</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://resbak.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pexavatarbugbog.jpg"></a>As you may have noticed, there is a blog tit-for-tat between me and Ivatan blogger. He claims that I was &#8220;forced&#8221; to create my blog to counter his blogs. That&#8217;s not entirely true. When did I start blogging?</p> resbak.com is 4 months old <p>I started blogging in December of 2008 mainly to respond to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://resbak.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pexavatarbugbog.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-737" title="pexavatarbugbog" src="http://resbak.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pexavatarbugbog-100x100.jpg" alt="pexavatarbugbog" width="1" height="1" /></a>As you may have noticed, there is a blog tit-for-tat between me and Ivatan blogger. He claims that I was &#8220;forced&#8221; to create my blog to counter his blogs. That&#8217;s not entirely true. When did I start blogging?</p>
<h3>resbak.com is 4 months old</h3>
<p>I started blogging in December of 2008 mainly to respond to the many blogs of supporters of the fugitive accused homosexual rapist Eliseo Soriano.  There were about 4 or 5 active shills writing for Soriano then and if I remember correctly they call themselves &#8220;correspondents&#8221;. Almost all of their articles were either shameless propaganda or blatant, criminal libel. The propaganda ranges from an almost god worship praise for whom they call &#8220;the most sensible preacher of our time&#8221;. The others were libelous materials rehashed from long before I was born. The Iglesia ni Cristo had already debunked these libelous accusations many times over and if one had only bothered to do a little research they wouldn&#8217;t have used these materials for there is a penalty for libel. But the fact that some still use these materials even after they were proven false lead me to believe that these writers were bent on doing one thing, and that is to disrespect, disparage and libel the Iglesia ni Crist and it&#8217;s leaders. So I wrote a few blog entries basically showing Eliseo Soriano&#8217;s true color and the reason he&#8217;s in his present predicament, which from the looks of it forced these Soriano supporters to stop their criminal libelous deeds. They still write propaganda though, and I don&#8217;t have any problem with that. I&#8217;ve been watching them for a while now and they seemed to be keeping to themselves and writing their &#8220;god worship&#8221; articles about Soriano. I was hoping it&#8217;ll stay that way when I came across Ivatan blogger.</p>
<h3>The blog of Mr. Er V</h3>
<p>The first article I stumbled upon on his blog was his latest back then, and he was questioning the finances of the Iglesia and of all things was about the  fact that the Iglesia ni Cristo has no official website. Even at first I&#8217;ve already noticed his obsession with the Iglesia ni Cristo. An so I responded to his blog (you can read my response <a title="Why pay for Priest Sex Abuse Settlement" href="http://resbak.com/blog/2009/03/19/ivatan-blogger-ask-why-pay-for-priests-sex-abuse-settlement/" target="_self">here</a>) basically stating that he being a die-hard catholic does not have the right to question another religion&#8217;s finances while his beloved Catholic Church is on the verge of collapse on the weight of penalties imposed for crimes commited. In his article also was the first time I&#8217;ve seen him disrespect the Iglesia ni Cristo by putting a flag resembling the flag of the Iglesia defaced with dollar signs.</p>
<p>I also explained to him that websites are usually used by people to harass, spam and flame the webiste owner and there is really no spiritual benefit from it. I thought the issue was finished and my response will be the last and all of this would not spiral in a blog tit-for-tat. Well I was wrong for as I was browsing his blog I came upon the same lame  libelous material on one of his older post. At first I decided not to dragged into a dirty blog exchange with this blogger but he had a different idea.  He published another post which led me to believe he&#8217;s really not  interested in being factual and fair, but rather content at copy/pasting of old articles that had been rehashed many times over. I again responded to his article debunking his claims and proving him wrong. As it turned out, he&#8217;s not only lazy in researching for his articles not caring if what he&#8217;s writing is true or nor he even has a nasty mouth.</p>
<h3><strong>What is libel anyway? and who is doing it?<br />
</strong></h3>
<p>Back to that libelous material. Libel is a serious matter. As I&#8217;ve written on my articles about Eliseo Soriano, saying and writing things that are untrue and with the intention of disparaging another is libel.</p>
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<div id="post_message_34882916">Libel, Slander and DefamationLibelous statements, whether against persons or products, are published statements that are false and damaging. Slander is the same as libel in most states, but in spoken rather than written form.</p>
<p>How do you know if you might defame someone or something in what you are about to publish? There are three tests which the defamatory statement must meet in order for a plaintiff to prevail in a suit against you and your publisher:</p>
<p>1. Untrue. In order to be defamatory, the statement must be untrue. If the statement is true or substantially true, then it is not defamatory, and the case is over.</p>
<p>2. Damaging. In order for the plaintiff to prevail, the statement must have caused real and substantial harm to the person or business. The plaintiff must present evidence of the substantial harm done.</p>
<p>3. Knowingly false. The plaintiff must also show that the defendant knew the statement was untrue, but published or broadcast the statement despite that knowledge.</p>
<p>From this brief explanation, you can deduce that the best way to avoid a libel charge, or to defeat it, is to write only that which is true and can be shown to be true through your meticulous research and note taking.</p></div>
<div><strong>Repeating a libelous statement, or pointing or otherwise linking to a libelous web page may also constitute libel.</strong></div>
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<p>It&#8217;s no secret that there are many website and blogs out there that contain libelous material that damage the reputation and honor of organizations and people. To me there two kinds of writers, the honorable and the garbage writers. Honorable writers do not libel, or if they did would correct themselves immediately once it is brought to their attention. Garbage writers are just without honor and would not correct their wrongdoing even if they know it is libel. They who are writes libelous material know that what they are doing is wrong and they hide behind nicknames in forums thinking that they&#8217;ll remain anonymous forever and would essentially get away with murder. They find protection is being anonymous for after all, how can one be charge with something when no one know who he really is? Ivatan blogger is a garbage writer. I found out that he had been saying unprintable things on a forum for at least 4 years, maybe as long as 7 years. He had rehashed the same garbage that Eliseo Soriano and his group had been spewing 20 years ago. He thought he would get away with murder.</p>
<h3>Dumb and dumber</h3>
<p>So here is Er, owner of Ivatan blogger from Ivana. In his blog he seems like a nice person.  He portrays an upstanding well mannered catholic goodie boy. He&#8217;s so confident he&#8217;s doing right he post detailed information about himself, photos included. No one can touch him because he looks like an honorable writer. But he writes differently on web forums. On a web forum where all of the writers hide behind a nickname he was different. He can spew invectives like he was eating rice and fish. He published and republishes libelous content. He writes disparaging remarks against the Iglesia, it&#8217;s leaders and it&#8217;s members. He though he can hide behind a nickname forever.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Cowards hide behind anonymity&#8221;</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>That ended though when I put two and two together. I found out the the <em>&#8220;losav&#8221;</em> who&#8217;s been writing nasty and libelous things on the boards is not other that Ivatan blogger. Now he can&#8217;t hide behind his anonymous nick. He can still write, he may even continue to libel but he&#8217;s now discovered and 4 or however many years he&#8217;s been writing invectives against the Iglesia in now free for everyone to see.</p>
<p>Good work Er. Is that what a teacher, and hororable profession, should be doing?</p>
<h3>Beware of impostors</h3>
<p>Lately, some unscrupolous impostor is inpersonating me. No worries though, for it wasn&#8217;t hard to tell that this person was impersonating me. It also wasn&#8217;t hard to see what the impersonator&#8217;s intention was:  it was to mislead. People who are not firm on their belief, who fail to defend their practices and who are revealed as cowards usually last out and do things that are less than desirable. After a few post, members of one forum berated the wrongdoers and lectured them on sound debating principles.</p>
<p>In the meantime, losav has yet to post on the same forum still reeling from the embarassment he went through.</p>
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		<title>Ivatan blogger, No Sense of History</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ivatan blogger fell short again, this time in history. No surprise there.  As I&#8217;ve proven in my <a title="Ivatan Blogger" href="http://resbak.com/blog/category/roman-catholic-church/" target="_self">previous</a> blog response to his articles against the Iglesia ni Cristo, Ivatan blogger a.k.a. losav do not research nor even understand what he&#8217;s writing about. He&#8217;s recycling bits and pieces of lie he stumbled [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivatan blogger fell short again, this time in history. No surprise there.  As I&#8217;ve proven in my <a title="Ivatan Blogger" href="http://resbak.com/blog/category/roman-catholic-church/" target="_self">previous</a> blog response to his articles against the Iglesia ni Cristo, Ivatan blogger a.k.a. losav do not research nor even understand what he&#8217;s writing about. He&#8217;s recycling bits and pieces of lie he stumbled on why trolling un-moderated forums. The other sad thing about it is that these lies  were already debunked. But both funny and sad at the same time is that however many times this is pointed out to him, he still keeps coming back to those same sources and regurgitates the same garbage.  He now adds his name to a long list of anti-Iglesia crusaders who draws blanks and gets shell shocked into silence when confronted with facts.</p>
<p>His latest article talks about history. He claims the Iglesia hates history and deny the historicity of the Catholic Church. Let&#8217;s examine his claims.</p>
<h3>History. How far should you go?</h3>
<p>He had one thing almost right. He said: &#8220;there should be no two churches claiming to be original&#8221;. Anyone can claim anything but like what President Obama of the U.S. recently say,  &#8220;the proof of the pudding is in the eating!&#8221;. What should be said is that, no two churches that are totally opposites can be the same church built by Jesus Christ in the first century.</p>
<p>Ivatan blogger claim that the Iglesia ni Cristo &#8220;<em>invented</em>&#8221; the &#8220;<em>Total Apostasy</em>&#8221; doctrine, and that this doctrine was copied from the Mormons.  First of all, the word &#8220;<em>apostasy</em>&#8221; was first used in the 14th century so it is idiotic to say that any person using it afterwards invented it. Similarly true with the word &#8220;total&#8221;.  So &#8220;<em>total apostasy</em>&#8221; is not something someone invents. All it is a combination of two words to describe something that occured. So how far should we go? All the way to the first century church of Christ. The Catholic church was apostatized totally  and one single but glaring proof of this is the pagan doctrine of the Trinity which the Catholic church practices.</p>
<p>The doctrine of the Trinity, which Catholic priest themselves admit is not based on bible teachings, was developed gradually over centuries, the first step being the declaration that Jesus Christ was God. This doctrine was created in a council presided not by a apostle or minister of God but by Emperor Constantine.  This being the case, it&#8217;s not hard to accept that the trinity doctrine was based on the pagan Babylonian triune god practiced by Emperor Constantine.</p>
<p>This started what would end up as the total apostasy of the church that Christ built. Historians agree that the Catholic church, which claims to be the original Church of Christ, does not bear any resemblance at all to the original church built by Christ in the first century.</p>
<blockquote><p>NOTE: <em>History is witness when the first century church of Christ was a small religious movement in the middle of the majority pagan faith. This is the same status quo today, the Iglesia ni Cristo being the small religion and the Catholic church as the majority pagan religion. In the first century, the unprecedented success of the Church of Christ in bringing people back to God scared the majority religion and connived with the government to persecute it. This persecution culminated with the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus. In our time, the Catholic church led the persecution of the Iglesia ni Cristo which persist but in an ever decreasing degree even today because the Catholic church has considerably weakened over the centuries. We are witnessing the fulfillment of the prophesy that Babylon has fallen.<br />
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<h3>Ivatan blogger, confused and befuddled.</h3>
<p>For some reason, Ivatan blogger equated &#8220;apostasy&#8221; with &#8220;death&#8221;.  For the life of me, I could not find the connection between apostasy and death . He quoted Matthew 16 where it is written &#8220;&#8230;<em>the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.&#8221; </em>Death is a cessation of breath, and when you&#8217;re dead there is nothing else you can do let alone be apostatized.</p>
<p>He then proceeded to quote snippets from the Pasugo magazine, a publication of the Iglesia ni Cristo. I&#8217;m not even going to entertain those quotation because if I did I&#8217;d have to talk about context and relevancy and I think that would be too much for Ivatan blogger.</p>
<h3>The Catholic church, a church built by an emperor</h3>
<p>Ivatan blogger claims the Christian church was a Jewish sect. That can&#8217;t be further from the truth because the very purpose of Christ was to build his own church.  But here is another startling thing about his blog. He failed to notice the second part of his quote where it states &#8220;<em>the end of imperial persecution of Christians after the ascencion of Constantine the Great in AD 313 and the First Council of Nicaea in 325.</em>&#8221; Here it is clear that an emperor, not an apostle, is the head of the church. This emperor, Constantine then initiated the first major adaptation of pagan practice into the Catholic church when the Council of Nicaea in 325 declared the Lord Jesus is also God.  Here now before Ivatan blogger eyes is the naked truth which he failed to see.</p>
<h3>The Church of Christ vs the Catholic church</h3>
<p>Here is our chance to look at the difference in the teachings of two churches, the Iglesia ni Cristo and the Catholic church.</p>
<ul>
<li>Jesus Christ
<ul>
<li> The bible is clear as to the nature of Jesus Christ; he is man endowed with great qualities  by God and made Lord and Savious by God. God is the Almighty Father is heaven and is the only true God. This is the teaching of the Iglesia ni Cristo.</li>
<li>The Catholic church teaches Jesus Christ is a true God which was declared by Emperor Constatine is 325 at the Council of Nicaea. None of the apostles was present because all have been dead for at lear 200 years.</li>
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<p>There you go. One single doctrine which proves that beginning of what would turn into a total apostasy of the original church. There are many other pagan practices which were absorbed into the Catholic church as the centuries pass. Even today we are witness to the glaring truth, the Catholic church is a pagan religion.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a title="Ivatan Blogger" href="http://losav.blogspot.com/2009/03/iglesia-ni-cristo-why-multi-million.html" target="_self">Ivatan Blogger</a> recently published quite a few articles about the Iglesia ni Cristo. This blogger is an ardent Roman Catholic Church adherent who&#8217;s has no qualms about breaking the law and  libeling the Iglesia ni Cristo.</p> <p>Anyway, his latest article against the Iglesia ni Cristo is about church finances in general [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Ivatan Blogger" href="http://losav.blogspot.com/2009/03/iglesia-ni-cristo-why-multi-million.html" target="_self">Ivatan Blogger</a> recently published quite a few articles about the Iglesia ni Cristo. This blogger is an ardent Roman Catholic Church adherent who&#8217;s has no qualms about breaking the law and  libeling the Iglesia ni Cristo.</p>
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<p>Anyway, his latest article against the Iglesia ni Cristo is about church finances in general and of all things, the absense of an official website. I don&#8217;t quite understand why this blogger, and similarly,  Eliseo Soriano are so bothered of that fact. I mean, in general, people go to websites not to enhanced their faith. They go there to spam and to flame. Hey, that&#8217;s why I screen the comments coming to my blog. Why go to all that trouble when the Iglesia ni Cristo has an open invitation to everyone to come to their houses of woship and listen to church doctrines.</p>
<p>Back to church finances. Do you, <a href="http://losav.blogspot.com/2009/03/iglesia-ni-cristo-why-multi-million.html">Ivantan blogger</a>, really want to compare the finances of the Iglesia ni Cristo and the Roman Catholic Church? Unless you just came out of a cave, you would know how much money, contributions from poor people, the Catholic church has paid for priests&#8217; sex abuse  victims. To date, the Catholic church spent $2.6 Billion, that&#8217;s billion with a &#8220;B&#8221;, to pacify sex abuse victims.</p>
<blockquote><p>The report showed that dioceses, eparchies and religious orders spent nearly $2.1 billion in the years 2004-2008 on settlements, therapy for victims, support for offenders, attorneys&#8217; fees and other costs related to clerical sex abuse.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 210px;">source: <a href="http://ncronline.org/news/accountability/costs-clergy-sex-abuse-26-billion">National Catholic Reporter</a></p>
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<p>That&#8217; a quote from a reputable Catholic Publication. While I&#8217;m at the subject of quoting, I would advice you, Ivatan blogger, to quote only from reputable, reliable sources. By doing so, you get reliable, reputable information and you won&#8217;t be guilty of libel, like what you&#8217;ve done on your blog. You can usually tell if they&#8217;re reliable because they would stand by what they wrote or said and can withstand scrutiny.</p>
<div id="attachment_468" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 251px"><a href="http://resbak.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/priest_83273t.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-468" title="priest_83273t" src="http://resbak.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/priest_83273t-241x300.jpg" alt="Kerry-born parish priest Fr Jeremiah McGrath (64) gave to convicted child rapist William Adams to help groom the 12-year-old for sex.  AN IRISH priest sentenced to five years in prison for aiding the rape of a young girl is to appeal his sentence.  " width="241" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Kerry-born parish priest Fr Jeremiah McGrath (64) gave to convicted child rapist William Adams to help groom the 12-year-old for sex.  AN IRISH priest sentenced to five years in prison for aiding the rape of a young girl is to appeal his sentence.  </p></div>
<p>So, you quoted an anonymous website showing some numbers and claiming these numbers are an &#8220;average yearly amount that a single INC member submit&#8221;. Now if you believe this, then you are one gullible Ivatan. Anyone can make claims like this but because the source is not refutable, it&#8217;s not even worth the bandwidth you used to quote it.</p>
<p>I can also make claims like that. I can claim that some if not all Catholic churchs charge for services, like marriage. But unlike you, I can show proof that a Catholic church do indeed church for service.</p>
<p>The Sacred Heart Catholic Parish of Klamath Falls, OR, U.S.A. has this pricelist on their website:</p>
<blockquote><p>10.There is a charge of $300 for us to provide this service to you. This is not a tax -deductible<br />
charitable donation; this is a fee charged by the church for services rendered.  This fee includes the<br />
preparation time and the use of the Church. $50 will be refunded to you if the Church is left in<br />
clean condition.</p>
<p>16. The organist and soloist (unless they are friends who have volunteered their services) should be<br />
given a gratuity for their services. The organist fee is $100 and the soloist fee is $75.</p>
<p>17. Altar servers are not necessary. If you decide you want servers, we can usually find them for you.<br />
They should also be given a gratuity of at least $10 each.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 210px;">source: <a title="Marriage Fee Schedule" href="http://www.sacredheartkf.org/pdf/Marriage_Convalidation_Flyer.pdf" target="_self">Sacred Heart Church, Klamath Falls, OR</a></p>
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<p>You further claimed that full time ministers get $12,000 a year. But again you do not provide any reliable source to support it. But even if the figure $12,000 is true, it&#8217;s small compared to the $30,000 a Catholic priest receive. That amount is from the priest regular salary plus payments in cash on such services rendered like wedding, baptism and memorial services. You know that all these services have fees, unlike the Iglesia ni Cristo which do not charge any fee for marriage service. They even do the cleaning of the worship service after the ceremony.</p>
<p>The rest of your blog is a copy paste of a whole lot of gobbledygook from the &#8220;source&#8221; you quoted which I decided not to waste my time on.</p>
<p>I just ripped apart what Ivatan blogger hoped was somehow a serious attack on the Iglesia ni Cristo. He now has to live with the thought that the money they send to Rome will end up, rightly so i may add, to somehow placate those poor souls who trusted their priest and were taken advantage of. Those priest are still out there and are probably planning on whom to victimize next. Let&#8217;s just hope and pray that somehow these victims will escape the clutches of the evildoers.</p>
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