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><channel><title>resbak - Right Back At You! &#187; arganiosa</title> <atom:link href="http://resbak.com/blog/tag/arganiosa/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://resbak.com/blog</link> <description>Say what you need to say</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:10:15 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>Sad: Abe Arganiosa&#8217;s Ignorance, part 2</title><link>http://resbak.com/blog/sad-abe-arganiosas-ignorance-part-2/</link> <comments>http://resbak.com/blog/sad-abe-arganiosas-ignorance-part-2/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:10:27 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>conrad</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Religion]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Roman Catholic Church]]></category> <category><![CDATA[abe]]></category> <category><![CDATA[abe arganiosa]]></category> <category><![CDATA[angels]]></category> <category><![CDATA[anti-catholic]]></category> <category><![CDATA[apologetics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[arganiosa]]></category> <category><![CDATA[business]]></category> <category><![CDATA[camelaucum]]></category> <category><![CDATA[catholic]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Catholic churches]]></category> <category><![CDATA[church]]></category> <category><![CDATA[church fathers]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cyprian]]></category> <category><![CDATA[decline]]></category> <category><![CDATA[dogmas]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Donations]]></category> <category><![CDATA[fall]]></category> <category><![CDATA[gregory]]></category> <category><![CDATA[heresy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[hippolytus]]></category> <category><![CDATA[investment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[losav]]></category> <category><![CDATA[mitre]]></category> <category><![CDATA[mitznefet]]></category> <category><![CDATA[monk hobbit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[narco-charity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[orgy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[pagan]]></category> <category><![CDATA[pope john paul ii]]></category> <category><![CDATA[pope pius]]></category> <category><![CDATA[porn]]></category> <category><![CDATA[priest]]></category> <category><![CDATA[prostitution]]></category> <category><![CDATA[roman catholic]]></category> <category><![CDATA[sex]]></category> <category><![CDATA[snow job]]></category> <category><![CDATA[spirit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[trinity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[turban]]></category> <category><![CDATA[virgin maria auxiliatrix]]></category> <category><![CDATA[virgin mary]]></category> <category><![CDATA[virgin mary help]]></category> <category><![CDATA[World]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://resbak.com/blog/?p=1196</guid> <description><![CDATA[In his blog, Mr Abe Arganiosa posed this question:
Is It True That the Miter of the Pope and Bishops Is Patterned After Egyptian Paganism?
To which he proudly answered this:
ANSWER: DEFINITENLY NOT! THE EPISCOPAL MITER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS TAKEN FROM THE HOLY GARMENTS WORN BY THE HIGH RANKING MINISTERS OF GOD IN THE TEMPLE [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his blog, Mr Abe Arganiosa posed this question:</p><blockquote><p><em>Is It True That the Miter of the Pope and Bishops Is Patterned After Egyptian Paganism?</em></p></blockquote><p>To which he proudly answered this:</p><blockquote><p><em>ANSWER: DEFINITENLY NOT! THE EPISCOPAL MITER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS TAKEN FROM THE HOLY GARMENTS WORN BY THE HIGH RANKING MINISTERS OF GOD IN THE TEMPLE AND THE MEETING TENT OF ISRAEL:</em></p></blockquote><p>He then proceeded to quote bible verses from the book of Exodus that seemed to say that indeed the mitre was used by God&#8217;s ancient servants. The verses talked about ceremonies in which the priest wore a headgear. The verses he quoted from the book of Exodus were: 28:4. 28:37, 39:31, 28:39, 29:6, 39:28.</p><p>So the assertions of Mr Arganiosa on his blog are:</p><ol><li>The mitre used by the Catholic church is based on God&#8217;s ancient peoples, specifically ancient Israel.</li><li>The mitre was used by the ancient people of God, ancient Israel.</li></ol><p>Let examine Mr Arganiosa&#8217;s claims and see if they have some substance.</p><div
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class="wp-caption-text">Abe Arganiosa</p></div><p>A casual check of the verses he quoted revealed that not all bible version render the verse to say &#8220;mitre&#8221;! Actually a good majority of bible versions render the headgear as &#8220;turban&#8221;. So, the second assertion of Mr Arganiosa that the people of God in the time of Moses wore a mitre is on a shaky foundation. He should have consulted other versions of the bible to make sure he is right but he obviously did not do this and now he&#8217;s in danger of being inadequate in his research. Or maybe he did to intentionally mislead?</p><div
class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 210px"><a
href="http://www.chabad.org/media/images/3113.jpg"><img
title="The Turban, wound as a &quot;Mitznefet&quot; (left) for the Kohen Gadol  and as a &quot;Migba'at&quot; (right) for the ordinary Kohen" src="http://www.chabad.org/media/images/3115.jpg" alt="The Turban, wound as a &quot;Mitznefet&quot; (left) for the Kohen Gadol  and as a &quot;Migba'at&quot; (right) for the ordinary Kohen" width="200" height="106" /></a><p
class="wp-caption-text">The Turban, wound as a &quot;Mitznefet&quot; (left) for the Kohen Gadol  and as a &quot;Migba&#39;at&quot; (right) for the ordinary Kohen</p></div><p>What exactly is in the Hebrew rendition of the verses he quoted? Again a cursory check of the bible reveals that the Hebrew word which was translated to both mitre and turban by different version is &#8220;<em>mitsnepheth</em>&#8220;. Mitsnepheth means a piece of cloth woven around the head.  One has to agree that even today, people in the middle east wear some sort of headgear wrapped around their head to keep the sun and heat away. So it won&#8217;t be too far fetched to think that a turban is the most likely headgear used by the early inhabitants of the Middle East. In fact, some Hebrew websites describe the apparel of ancient Hebrews to include a turban.</p><p>Clearly, even common sense dictates that the &#8220;mitre&#8221; quoted by Mr Arganiosa is a turban similar to the graphic at right and is a long piece of cloth wrapped around the head. Now let&#8217;s compare this to the mitre used by the Catholic church.</p><p>According to the Catholic Encyclopedia (newadvent.org):</p><blockquote><div
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title="Mitre of the Catholic Church" src="http://www.newadvent.org/images/10404adx.jpg" alt="Mitre of the Catholic Church" width="288" height="430" /></a><p
class="wp-caption-text">Mitre of the Catholic Church</p></div><p>The mitre is a kind of folding-cap. It consists of two like parts, each stiffened by a lining and risingto a peak; these are sewn together on the sides, but are united above by a piece of material that can fold together. Two lappets trimmed on the ends with fringe hang down from the back. The mitre is, theoretically, always supposed to be white. The official &#8220;Cæremoniale Romanum&#8221; distinguishes three kinds of mitres: the <em>mitra pretiosa</em>, <em>auriphrygiata</em>, and <em>simplex.</em> The first two differ from each other only in the greater or less richness of the ornamentation; the <em>mitra simplex</em>, or simple mitre, is one of white silk or white linen entirely without ornament. The fringe on the lappets at the back should be red.</p><p>Origin</p><p>The pontifical mitre is of Roman origin: it is derived from a non-liturgical head-covering distinctive of the pope, the <em>camelaucum</em>, to which also the tiara is to be traced. The camelaucum was worn as early as the beginning of the eighth century, as is shown by the biography of Pope Constantine I (708- 815) in the &#8220;Liber Pontificalis&#8221;. The same headcovering is also mentioned in the so-called &#8220;Donation of Constantine&#8221;. The Ninth Ordo states that the camelaucum was made of white stuff and shaped like a helmet. The coins of Sergius III (904-11) and of Benedict VII (974-83), on which St. Peter is portrayed wearing a camelaucum, give the cap the form of a cone, the original shape of the mitre. The camelaucum was worn by the pope principally during solemn processions. The mitre developed from the camelaucum in this way: in the course of the tenth century the pope began to wear this head-covering not merely during processions to the church, but also during the subsequent church service. Whether any influence was exerted by the recollection of the sacerdotal head-ornament of the high-priest of the Old Testament is not known, but probably not—at least there is no trace of any such influence. It was not until the mitre was universally worn by bishops that it was called an imitation of the Jewish sacerdotal head-ornament.</p><p>source:<a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10404a.htm"> newadvent.org</a></p></blockquote><p>Need I say more? A folding cap is not at all similar to a long piece of linen cloth wrapped around the head. The Catholic encyclopedia has more than enough information contradicting Mr Arganiosa&#8217;s claims. Too bad that Mr Arganiosa seems to not even know the history of his own religion.</p><p>To recap, we&#8217;ve just established that both of Mr Arganiosa&#8217;s claim are not true and also established the following:</p><ol><li>The mitre used by the Catholic church is not based on the turban used by the ancient people of God.</li><li>A turban was used by the ancient people of God.</li></ol><p>But then we&#8217;re still left by the question posed to Mr Arganiosa, which is</p><blockquote><p><em>Is It True That the Miter of the Pope and Bishops Is Patterned After Egyptian Paganism?</em></p></blockquote><div
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href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6dKQTchkJaA/S2_qfZwV_iI/AAAAAAAAQho/GUsYH-ASYyA/s400/StAmbrose.jpg"><img
title="St. Ambrose, Bishop of Milan, wearing a mitre" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6dKQTchkJaA/S2_qfZwV_iI/AAAAAAAAQho/GUsYH-ASYyA/s400/StAmbrose.jpg" alt="St. Ambrose, Bishop of Milan, wearing a mitre" width="150" height="100" /></a><p
class="wp-caption-text">&quot;St&quot;. Ambrose, Bishop of Milan, wearing a mitre</p></div><p>As is stated by the Catholic Encyclopedia, the Pope&#8217;s mitre is of Roman origin! Read again, Roman origin, NOT Christian origin. It is derived from <em>camelaucum. </em> What is a <em>camelaucum</em>?  Again, the Catholic encyclopedia tells us that the camelaucum was first used  by Pope Constantine during his reign in the 8th century and was part of the supposed donation of Emperor Constantine.</p><p>Suffice it to say, we can safely assert with much authority that Mr Arganiosa doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s talking about and that the mitre used by the Catholic church is of pagan influence.</p><p>Ask yourself this: do you think a supposedly Christian religion is well justified in using a pagan instrument in its practices?</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://resbak.com/blog/sad-abe-arganiosas-ignorance-part-2/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>25</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Sad: Abe Arganiosa&#8217;s ignorance</title><link>http://resbak.com/blog/sad-abe-arganiosas-ignorance/</link> <comments>http://resbak.com/blog/sad-abe-arganiosas-ignorance/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:29:20 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>truthcaster</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Religion]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Roman Catholic Church]]></category> <category><![CDATA[abe]]></category> <category><![CDATA[abe arganiosa]]></category> <category><![CDATA[angels]]></category> <category><![CDATA[anti-catholic]]></category> <category><![CDATA[apologetics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[arganiosa]]></category> <category><![CDATA[business]]></category> <category><![CDATA[catholic]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Catholic churches]]></category> <category><![CDATA[church]]></category> <category><![CDATA[church fathers]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cyprian]]></category> <category><![CDATA[decline]]></category> <category><![CDATA[dogmas]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Donations]]></category> <category><![CDATA[fall]]></category> <category><![CDATA[gregory]]></category> <category><![CDATA[heresy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[hippolytus]]></category> <category><![CDATA[investment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[losav]]></category> <category><![CDATA[monk hobbit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[narco-charity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[orgy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[pagan]]></category> <category><![CDATA[pope john paul ii]]></category> <category><![CDATA[pope pius]]></category> <category><![CDATA[porn]]></category> <category><![CDATA[priest]]></category> <category><![CDATA[prostitution]]></category> <category><![CDATA[roman catholic]]></category> <category><![CDATA[sex]]></category> <category><![CDATA[snow job]]></category> <category><![CDATA[spirit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[trinity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[virgin maria auxiliatrix]]></category> <category><![CDATA[virgin mary]]></category> <category><![CDATA[virgin mary help]]></category> <category><![CDATA[World]]></category><guid
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The Roman Catholic priest Abe Arganiosa is a big disappointment. One would expect so much more from a supposedly &#8220;learned&#8221;, &#8220;schooled&#8221;, &#8220;educated&#8221; person. And yet, judging from his blog entries, Mr Arganiosa is all show and no substance. For a view of this amazing let down, read on:
Misinterpretation of Scriptures
He was talking about bible interpretation [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div
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class="size-full wp-image-1183" title="Abe Arganiosa" src="http://resbak.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Abe-Arganiosa-Fat.jpg" alt="Abe Arganiosa" width="187" height="240" /></a><p
class="wp-caption-text">Abe Arganiosa</p></div><p>The Roman Catholic priest Abe Arganiosa is a big disappointment. One would expect so much more from a supposedly &#8220;learned&#8221;, &#8220;schooled&#8221;, &#8220;educated&#8221; person. And yet, judging from his blog entries, Mr Arganiosa is all show and no substance. For a view of this amazing let down, read on:</p><h3>Misinterpretation of Scriptures</h3><p>He was talking about bible interpretation and claimed the the church, his church the Roman Catholic church is the official interpreter of the bible. Yeah right! To be honest and blunt, there&#8217;s not a single Roman Catholic doctrine that is based on the teachings of the bible, let alone the Lord Jesus Christ. And not only are the doctrines of the Roman Catholic church NOT biblical, they go against teachings written in the bible. I&#8217;ve already enumerated a few in this blog which have not been refuted by any catholic defender. Let&#8217;s name a few:</p><ul><li>Bowing and worshiping idols</li><li>Forbidding to marry</li><li>Commanding to abstain from eating meat</li></ul><p>And who can forget the biggest snow job in the history of mankind, the doctrine of the trinity! Their own websites admit and confirm that the trinity doctrine is not biblical, therefore it is an addition and replacement to the teachings of the Apostles.</p><blockquote><p><em>In <a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/bible">Scripture</a> there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine <a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11726a.htm">Persons</a> are denoted together. The word </em><em>trias</em> (of which the Latin <em>trinitas</em> is a translation) is first found in <a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14625a.htm">Theophilus of Antioch</a> about A.D. 180. He speaks of &#8220;the Trinity of <a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06608a.htm">God</a> [the Father], His <a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09328a.htm">Word</a> and His Wisdom (<a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02042.htm"><em>To Autolycus</em> II.15</a>). The term may, of course, have been in use before his <a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14726a.htm">time</a>. Afterwards it appears in its Latin form of <em>trinitas</em> in <a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14520c.htm">Tertullian</a> (<a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0407.htm"><em>On Pudicity</em> 21</a>). In the next century the word is in general use. It is found in many passages of <a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11306b.htm">Origen</a> (&#8220;In Ps. xvii&#8221;, 15). The first <a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04478a.htm">creed</a> in which it appears is that of <a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11306b.htm">Origen&#8217;s</a> pupil, <a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07015a.htm">Gregory Thaumaturgus</a>. In his <em><a
href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0601.htm">Ekthesis tes pisteos</a></em> composed between 260 and 270</p><p><em>newadvent.org</em></p></blockquote><h3>Why the need for saints?</h3><div
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title="Canonization Ceremony" src="http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo/_new/081012-vatican-pope-hmed8p.hmedium.jpg" alt="Canonization Ceremony" width="383" height="273" /></a><p
class="wp-caption-text">Canonization Ceremony</p></div><p>First, let&#8217;s define who saints are and what makes them saints. In particular, catholic &#8220;saints&#8221;. Catholic saints are another form of a money making scheme developed by the Roman Catholic saints. It one would look into how someone becomes a saint it would be evident that it involves money. A lot of money and this money goes to the Vatican. So basically if you&#8217;re foreign to the Vatican Hierarchy, you need to have a lot of money and are willing to spent it if you wanted to be &#8220;sainted&#8221;. Miguel Arroyo, the Philippine presidents husband is now in the process of making one of his aunts a saint. Let&#8217;s hope it doesn&#8217;t involve government money intended for the poverty stricken flood victims. I digress.</p><p>Mr Arganiosa mentioned a few names whom he said were saints and said these are not to be set aside. Curious thing is that he did not provide any basis as to why these names are saints and that their role is in the worship of God. Again let&#8217;s consult newadvent.org, a catholic website. It says:</p><blockquote><p><em>Patron Saints &#8211; A patron is one who has been assigned by a venerable tradition, or chosen by election, as a special intercessor with</em><em> God</em></p></blockquote><p>You read it right! Catholic saints are supposedly &#8220;special intercessor&#8221; with God, or another &#8220;mediator&#8221;! A special one at that! Does this agree with the bible? Absolutely not! Here:</p><blockquote><p><em>For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus</em></p></blockquote><p>As you can read, there is only ONE mediator between God and men, and it is the Lord Jesus Christ. Can anyone be more special than the Saviour? Ask Abe that.</p><h3>God created Himself?</h3><p>This has to be the most absurd statement ever made. Mr Arganiosa claims God made himself into a man. This is so wrong in so many points so let&#8217;s point out a few of them for Mr Arganiosa&#8217;s benefit.</p><ul><li>God will not be man because He said so Himself.</li><li>Jesus Christ, whom catholic claim is also God said there is ONLY ONE God the Father in Heaven. So to even think that God became Jesus is absurd.</li><li>Jesus Christ died on the cross. God is immortal</li></ul><p>Here you go. A few things to answer Abe Arganiosa&#8217;s preposterous claims. I sure hope he learns something.<br
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