Here you’ll see the difference between the doctrines adhered to and practiced by the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ) and the Roman Catholic church and how they compare to teachings found in the bible. Here we go:
God, the Father
- Bible: one God, the Father in heaven
- Iglesia ni Cristo: one God, the Father in heaven
- RCC: trinity, based on pagan Babylonian triune god
God, the Father
- Bible: one God, the Father in heaven
- Iglesia ni Cristo: one God, the Father in heaven
- RCC: the Pope
Holy Father
- Bible: God, the Father
- Iglesia ni Cristo: God, the Father
- RCC: the priest, bishops, cardinals, the Pope
Nature of the Lord Jesus Christ
- Bible: Jesus Christ is man
- Iglesia ni Cristo: Jesus Christ is man
- RCC: Jesus is God as of 325 AD by order of the Council of Nicaea chaired by Emperor Constantine.
Head of the Church of Christ
- Bible: Christ is the Head of His body, the Church
- Iglesia ni Cristo: Christ is the Head of the Church of Christ, Iglesia ni Cristo
- RCC: Pope is the Head of the Church.
Who to worship
- Bible: Worship only God and Christ
- Iglesia ni Cristo: Worships God and Christ. Only.
- Roman pagan: Worships Mama Mary, St. Joseph, St. Peter, all saints, angels, including their statues, pictures, relics.
Mediator between God and man
- Bible: one mediator between God and man, the man Jesus Christ
- Iglesia ni Cristo: one mediator between God and man, the man Jesus Christ
- RCC: “Virgin Mary” and all the “Saints” are intercessors
Prohibition in the eating of blood
- Bible: prohibition on eating blood.
- Iglesia ni Cristo: prohibition on eating blood
- Catholic: No prohibition on eating blood
Abstain from eating meat
- Bible: No abstinence from meat
- Iglesia ni Cristo: No abstinence from meat
- RCC: Abstain from meat at certain dates
Forbidding to marry
- Bible: No prohibition to marry
- Iglesia ni Cristo: No prohibition to marry
- RCC: Priest are prohibited to marry once they take their vow
Wow Bobo pala tong Satanistang katoliko mas mataas pa pala si Marya. Si Marya ina nag Diyos Si Cristo anak lang si Pope ang Anticristo! BOBO!
easy lang Mr. Ray Pogi. may you atleast respect other people and other people’s belief though you think they’re bobo. i too think that the RCC’s doctrines are unbiblical, but i would not concur on your way of talking about them, since the bible obligues us to respect their beliefs. besides, theres nothing in the blog entry where i can find the “Marry — mother of God’ thing that you are talking about. maybe you commented on the wrong blog entry, lol.
may God bless you.
ray pogi – ganyan ang typical na tingin ninyo sa mga Katoliko at sa lahat ng hindi kaanib ninyo sa inyong iglesia. sa paniniwala ninyo kayo lang ang maliligtas…anong klaseng walang awang dios ba ang sinasamba ninyo? kapanipaniwala ba na lahat ng gumawa ng kabutihan na labas sa inyong grupo ay dapat mapunta sa impyerno? o pananakot lang ba ito para mas makalikom ng mas maraming miyembro.
ito ang Diyos namin
Gen 19:24-25
Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.
Yan ba ang sinasabi mong walang awang dios? o heto basahin mo
Gen 19:29 So when God destroyed the cities of the plain, he remembered Abraham, and he brought Lot out of the catastrophe that overthrew the cities where Lot had lived.
sino ang sinunog, lahat ba? malinaw na hindi kaya malinaw din na maling mali ka sa unawa mo.
so hindi pala lahat ng hindi kaanib sa inyo ay nasusunog sa dagat dagatang apoy…parang
salungat sa paulit ulit na sinasabi ng mga ministro ninyo sa TV na dapat sumanib sa “tunay
na iglesia” upang maligtas?
here’s my opinion and again its just an opinion – your church is JUST one successful business empire. and i am pretty impressed with the manner it is being managed. 1. target market – largely Catholics who are not smart enough to find answers within their faith. 2. strategy – 2.1 instill fear of eternal damnation amongst those who do not join or those who oppose it. 2.2 create an illusion of being chosen as the “true” church 3. controls – tight monitoring of members contributions and attendance with constant threats of dagat dagatang apoy. it is such as splendid business model since you have ensured blind “brand loyalty” through fear and intimidation while imposing fixed percentages of your members’ incomes.
I’m sorry VIC when it comes to RELIGION and FAITH, we’re not basing our beliefs that are based from OPINION and SPECULATIONS, because these are based on Human WISDOM.
According to the Bible:
1Co 2:4 “and my teaching and message were not delivered with skillful words of human wisdom, but with convincing proof of the power of God’s Spirit. Your faith, then, does not rest on human wisdom but on God’s power.”
And what is the power of God?
Rom 1:16 “I have complete confidence in the gospel; it is God’s power to save all who believe, first the Jews and also the Gentiles.”
The power of God that we should rely on is the GOSPEL or the WORDS OF GOD in the Bible.
Since what you just said is your opinion, therefore we have the right NOT TO BELIEVE it, unless you can prove otherwise by showing Biblical passages that the INC did not obey in its teachings
PEACE to all!! why do we create conflicts and gaps among us because of Religion??? is this what God wants??? Pls. respect everyone’s religion.. you cannot say that your religion is the one true religion over the other.. it seems now that entering the kingdom of God is a COMPETITION which is not supposed to be.. we don’t have the power to say that a person will not be save and will not enter the Kingdom of God..
You forget two conflicting teachings cannot be both true.
Pls wag nyong i decieve ang mga visitor ng site na to…
some of the comparisons are right, perhaps, pero yung iba WALANG BASIHAN..
parehas po kayong naliligaw sa katotohanan!
jesus is man? sabi ng bible? maling mali, the bible has declared jesus christ to be MAN AND GOD, that’s his nature
read PHIL 2:6 for reference
kung hindi sure sa sasabihin lalo na involve ang BIBLE dont say it
If you will understand, Phil 2:6 never said Jesus is God.. To be exact “being in the form of God”, not “being God”. Being in the form of God does not mean Christ is God. “form” is synonymous to “image”, or having Godly attributes. Christ is the image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15).
And understanding it the way you like, will mislead people, why? beacuse the verse said “6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:”
There would be two (2) Gods. 1st God (Christ, being in the form of God), 2nd God (thought it not robbery to be equal with God)…
While the bible teaches only one God which is the Father, Ephesians 4:5-6
5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Lets not contradict the holy scriptures.
The Lord Jesus himself said there is ONLY ONE GOD. that makes your belief erroneous.
God exists as three persons but is one God, meaning that God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have exactly the same nature or being as God the Father in every way. Whatever attributes and power God the Father has, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have as well. “Thus, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are also eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, infinitely wise, infinitely holy, infinitely loving, omniscient.”
As it says in the following
Matthew 28:19
“Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”
2 Corinthians 13:14
“May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.”
Mark 1:10-11 & Luke 3:22
“As soon as Jesus Christ was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and landing on him. And a voice from heaven said, ‘This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.’”
Luke 1:35 (it also PROVES that Jesus was a SON OF GOD)
“The angel answered and said to her, ‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.’”
Hebrews 9:14
“How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!”
Acts 7:55
“But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.”
maybe that can prove enough. but obviously you INC will reject it but IT IS WRITTEN.
You said “God exists as three persons but is one God, meaning that God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have exactly the same nature or being as God the Father in every way.“. You obviously don’t know about the verse where it states the Son will be under God. Neither are you aware of the verse where the Son states that there is ONLY ONE GOD THE FATHER IN HEAVEN. And you also don’t know about the verse where it states that the Holy Spirit is SENT by God. All three of these verses proves your statement above is totally and utterly wrong.
SAAN PO NINYO MABABASA YANG SINABI MO NA “ONLY ONE GOD THE FATHER IN HEAVEN” WHAT BOOK, CHAPTER AND VERSE? PLEASE PROVE THANKS
John 17:1, 3
After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.
Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God,
mr resbak saan dyan sa nilagay mong talata yung sinasabi mong ” ONLY ONE GOD THE FATHER IN HEAVEN”? also anong translation yang ginamit mo? bakit prayed ang nakalagay? tapos pinutol mo pa yung verse 3, may karugtong yan diba? ang dapat KILALANIN sa talatang yan ay hindi lamang ang Ama kundi si JesuCristo din. si Jesus ay Dios din na dapat mong makilala.
binasa mo sinabi ng Panginoon Jesus na ang Ama ang “THE ONLY TRUE GOD” tapos maghahanap ka ng ” ONLY ONE GOD THE FATHER IN HEAVEN”? ok ka lang?
a dahil Catholic ka ayaw mo yung “prayed”? Bakit, ikaw kapag ang pinag uusapan pagtawag kay God ano ang mas akma at magalang na kataga, “pray” o “speak”? at akala mo naman kung “speak” ang gagamitin mo mababago ang katotohanan na may kinakausap si Lord Jesus at ang kausap nya nasa langit.
kung Diyos ang Panginoong Jesus bakit sinabi mismo ng Panginoong Jesus na ANG AMA ANG IISANG TUNAY NA DIYOS, aber?
sa JUAN 17:1-3 UNAWAIN PO NINYONG MABUTI…
Would it be possible for a Iglesia ni Cristo to marry a Roman catholic when you said there is no prohibition when it comes to marriage?
God forbids the uniting in marriage between a believer and an unbeliever. So if a Roman Catholic wants to marry an Iglesia ni Cristo he/she has to first be a believer, meaning join the Iglesia ni Cristo, then they can marry. Priest and nuns, on the other hand, CANNOT marry at all. That’s the difference.
HELLO SIR, ANONG PO ATTRIBUTES ANG BINABANNGIT SA FILIPOS 2:6 NA BINABANGGIT MO? MUKHANG KAYO ANG MALI NG PAGKAUNAWA. GUMAMIT KA NG SYNONIMS NA IMAGE PARA IBAHIN ANG CONTEXT KAYA INIIBA MO ANG MEANING. BIBLE TWISTING TAWAG DYAN. ANYONG DIOS NI CRISTO ANG BINABANGGIT DYAN SA FIL 2:6 WAG MONG IBAHIN. KAWAWA KA NAMAN!
Phil 2:6 “who, though he was in the form of God, “. Does this mean that the Lord Jesus is God? absolutely not. Why? Following your interpretation, in Gen 1: 26 “God said, “Now we will make humans, and they will be like us” we will be gods too.
im sorry mr resbak pero hindi mo sinagot yung gusto kong malaman sa inyo. you said it was attributes of God yung na binabanggit sa Fil 2:6. what are those atributes. wag kang umalis sa verse at sa chapter. Filipos ang pinauusapan natin hindi Genesis. please prove within the context of Fil 2: 6-8 yung attributes na sinasabi mo. thanks
bakit hindi mo i spell out kung ano ang punto mo? yun naman ay kung meron at kaya mo i depensa. otherwise, ala tsamba lang ang ginagawa mo at wala ka dyan mapapala.
pupuntahan mo pa yung Fil 2:6-8 e lalong nagpapatunay na hindi Diyos ang Panginoong Jesus. Saan mo nabasa na namamatay ang Diyos, aber? wag ka na magpalusot at lalo ka mababaon.
There are, I guess, three lessons out of 25 in the indoctrination process of the INC that tackles about Jesus being a man. And I guess those are the most lengthy lessons among the others. The lessons also explain that Jesus is a man despite of having “Godly” attributes. “Katangian” and “kalikasan” are different from each other. Am I right? Correct me if I’m wrong Mr. Resbak.
Shayz – I did some research and according to the Holy Bible, God never mentioned that Jesus is also God. In fact, even Jesus never told people that he, himself is also God.
Yes, I agree, there is a verse in the Holy Bible that when Jesus went to the mount of Olive, He talked to the people out there and mentioned:
John 8:58
“Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”
BUT THIS DOES NOT MEAN – He is also a God. He also mentioned in one of the verses in the Holy Bible that:
“God, the Father and I are only one. I am His Son and He is my Father, and, your Father.
AGAIN – THIS DOESN’T MEAN that Jesus is also God. Logic lang yun eh, it’s like Tatay mo at Ikaw ay iisa because your life is running with the same blood.
That is why Jesus told us that they are only one, because, they are connected to each other. Get my point?
So if you will become a INC member, you, Jesus, we and God will be only one as well. Kasi isa na tayo kay Cristo Jesus, kaisa na rin tayo ng Ama…
AND THAT WILL SAVE YOU FROM THE FIRES OF HELL…
There is no point quarreling on religious tenets to the point of hurling invectives. Why not agree on common grounds then respect each others’ differences! Pray for God’s wisdom and you will be guided accordingly. If we really believe in one God, the God of peace and unity, we should reflect this by living harmoniously with one another. How about a truce? God bless us all!
Who says we’re quarreling? Who’s hurling invectives. The post is a simple comparison of doctrines, to show facts, not intending to disrespect.
The Problem is we don’t believe in the same God. I believe in the singularity of God, you believe in 3 in 1.
Hey!! we dont need to quarell!!! we are still christians!! we believe in the same God after all diba?! no need to fight
We’re not quarreling, we’re just comparing doctrines. And as you can see, we don’t believe in the SAME God. We believe God is the Father, the same Father as the Father of the Lord Jesus. You on the other hand believe in the trinity.
i believe your God is definitely different from ours.
Ours is a loving GOD who will not send everyone not belonging to a particular church or cult to Hell. Your GOD is a vengeful and hate stricken megalomaniac who insists that everyone should belong to your church lest be consumed by eternal fire. So Gandhi, Buddha and all just people before your church are now damned since they are part of the sanlibutan? You can quote
all the verses you want
that we agree. Unlike yours, my God is a spirit and cannot be represented by stone and wood images.
My God is a JUST God who will not tolerate sinners. He is LOVE and He showed it by giving His own Son the Lord Jesus for die the those who will be part of his(Jesus) body. The Lord Jesus is the savior of his body the church, thus the name Church of Christ.
And you can quote all the verses you want but you will not find one where God tolerated sinners WHILE they still sinned.
and who is to say who sinned and who did not sin? kawawa naman si mother theresa – nasa impyerno na siya ngayon dahil hindi siya INC. kawawa naman ang mga mabubuting hudyo, muslim and buddhists dahil according to your beliefs, they will all be damned. this means majority of human kind will be damned! you do have a unique god.
ano ba ang “sin”? sin is disobedience to God’s command, agree? halimbawa, “thou shall not kill”. so yung pumatay nagkasala, agree? halimbawa #2, “do not make graven images and bow to them”. so yung yumuko sa rebulto nagkasala, agree?
kawawa? kawawa talaga. hindi ba maganda ang gumawa ng mabuti? magandang maganda! SAPAT na ba yun? hindi.
you are assuming that i am catholic. i have never admitted this and i find it comical that your arguments are skewed towards Catholicism. Your cult claims that only you will be saved…this is arrogance and very very rash judgement! you also claim that Manalo was an angel…huh? di naman siya binanggit sa Bible kung bible lang ang paguusapan…ay oo nga pala in your interpretation angel nga pala siya..tapos yung issue ninyo ng apostasy ba yun? exceedingly comical pero tragic because ang daming naniwala! OUT OF ALL THE BILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE EVER LIVED ON EARTH ONLY THE INC WILL BE SAVED! THIS IS PURE ARROGANCE!
well the subject of the post you’re commenting on is Roman Catholicism.
a cult by its original definition is worship and since I worship God and Christ, they yes I belong to a cult. This cult is different for the Roman Catholic “Cult of Mary” which deals with the worship NOT OF GOD or Christ, but the mother of the Lord Jesus. Nowhere in the bible will you ever find a teaching to worship Mary.
Do you know that in the bible there’s a verse which states that those who will be condemned are as many as the grains of sand on the beach? So your unbelief that “billions” of people will be condemned is borne out of ignorance.
hi conrad resbak. are you and resbak the same person? or ni re resbakan mo ba si resbak?
conrad resbak IS resbak
Kung hindi ka nagbabasa ng bibliya, ay magbasa ka.
Dahil hindi mo maiitindihan kung ano man ang sabihin nila tungkol sa bibliya.
Kung nagbabasa ka na, ay magsiyasat ka.
Dahil hindi mo pa lubos na maiintindihan kung bumabatay ka lang sa nababasa mo.
Kung nagsisiyasat ka na, ay alamin mo na kung ano ang tama.
Hanapin at alamin mo sa kanila kung sino sa kanila ang malapit sa mga nababasa mo sa bibliya.
Dahil iyan ang taong naghahangad na kaalaman tungkol sa kaligtasan.
For all you guys arguing about this, it’s so immature. We ALL have the same Gods, although we worship them in a different way. Stop with all the arguing, gosh! I’m just a 14 year old girl here you know, I got bored so I check this out. I believe all of you are probably older than me. And our God wouldn’t want to see arguing or fighting whatsoever. Why can’t we just have world peace, and geez. It’s totally getting on my nerves. Marriage is LOVE, and it’s sad to know that even religion itself will forbid it. If two people love each other unconditionally, then give them break and go with it. Either way, we do worship different Gods, but it still seems the same to me..
we’re not arguing we’re comparing doctrines.
As is very clear in the comparison, we don’t have the same God. The INC’s God is the God of the Lord Jesus Christ. To other religions/churches, their god is THE Lord Jesus.
Vic, thanks for your “opinions” and let’s scrutinize one by one if indeed your “opinions” are acceptable in the light of facts and truth. I think you won’t negate the fact if I’d say that your priests and nuns are considered in Catholic Church as “smart enough to find answers within their faith”? By saying so, meaning you missed the fact that there are already a good number of priests and nuns who were converted to INC not only here but in abroad as well. FYI, the first and the most popular one was the ex-priest Aboloc. Do you know which teachings of the Bible finally opened up his eyes? That forbidding to marry is a devil’s doctrine.
How about your opinion #2? Tell me Vic, who else in this world do you think does not fear eternal damnation (with an exemption of course of atheists)? On the contrary however, though I’m pretty sure you won’t understand the feeling since you have not yet reached the truth, INC serves God not because of fear of hell but because He is worth of all of our glorications. And do you think God wants us to be damned eternally in the lake of fire? No. You have already heard the good news that God sent His only begotten Son to the world that whosoever believe in Him shall not perish but to have an everlasting life. Yet, you simply believe but you don’t show your beliefs through your actions. He said that whosoever enter in the fold through Him shall be saved and in so many times INC teaches that the flock is the Church (His body) which is called after His name, the Church of Christ and fair enough, only His own body shall He save on judgement day. But if inspite of the warnings and that you still persist not to “join” or “oppose” it, then there is nothing else we can about it, that is your choice. We have done our part and that what matters most next to saving your soul from the lake of fire. Get ready then to face the consequences of your decision.
#3, Create an illusion of being chosen as the “true” church. Well, I could not refute this one unless you cite a good example(s) as your basis for considering INC as not the “true” church.
#4 Tight monitoring of member contributions with constant threats of dagat dagatang apoy. When I reached this point, I couldn’t help it but to smile. Where exactly did you get this idea Vic? Probably you’ve mistaken us with SDA? Stop believing hersays but better discover it by yourself. We are INC not a BIR. I’m sorry but really this “opinion” is quite hilarious. Our Lord Jesus Christ teaches us to give according to our hearts. And the apostles taught us further to always give our offerings to God – wholeheartedly, for God is greatly delighted on those offerings. And should I enumerate to you one by one as to where our offerings are being used? I think no need. Therefore, we give according to whatever our hearts decide not according to whatever you think we do.
Monitoring the attendance. Yes it is, for the Bible says that any deacons who fail to oversee his flock shall be accountable to God. Jesus cited a good example with a shepherd who left his 99 sheeps just to look after for the missing one.
I suggest you observe our worship services by yourself and not according to what you’ve just heard. I’m sure there’s an INC chapel near to your place, you are most welcome to address your questions directly to the destined minister. You won’t lose any thing at all, right? I assure you, it’s worth a try.
Peace!
thanks for the lengthy response sir. my opinions were of course based on what i have observed. not one a figment of my imagination. oh yes i have attended your services with a very open mind. i obviously do not find joining your church a palatable option at time. thank you for the invitation just the same.
care to share the reason why joing the church is NOT a palatable option for you? let me guess, you have a vice you cannot let go of.
What other people don’t understand is the truth that there are certain technicalities one need to follow before achieving salvation. Others ask “Why do we need to enter your church?”, “Why do we need not to marry unbelievers after entering the church?”, “Why this?”, “Why that?”, “Aren’t we also worshiping God? Isn’t that enough?”
For the sake of giving an analogy: In a game, there are rules to abide by. Not all are winners. There are “technicalities” of the rules. And in this game of achieving salvation, the scriptures is the rule. There can’t be two interpretations of one rule. There is just one. A rule cannot be ambiguous. You follow the wrong interpretation, or much worse, following your OWN interpretation you lose the game.
I believe that the INC has the clearest, pristine interpretation of the “rules.” Not complicated. Straightforward. Just compare “one God, the Father in heaven” vs “Trinity doctrine.” What’s the more straightforward doctrine? What’s the more simple? Just what like Occam’s Razor states “the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one.” But I am not saying that this is the explanation on the “God: being one vs Trinity” debate. I am just giving my analogy.
If you like to know more about the doctrines of the INC, you are welcome to attend bible lessons or worship services. You can ask any questions that you like to our ministers. You could debate with them if you want.
sabi ni cristo sa juan 8:40 “ay siya ay tao,nagsasabi ng katotohanan na narinig niya sa diyos,…..bakit ba hindi niyo maunawa yan?kayo’Y Sa inyong amang diyablo”at sa isang pang talata ay ….”sinabi ni cristo….na makilala ka nila na iisang diyos na tunay…KAYA PAG SINABING ISA ANG DIYOS…..HINDI PWEDE MAGING TATLO..
inc is the best
Hindi madaling tanggapin ang totoo.
Kung ito ay hindi pabor para sa iyo.
Hindi tulad ni Cristo dahil sa katotohanan,
Tinanggap niya ano man ang sapitin niya.
Bakit hindi ninyo siya gayahin.
Dahil ba sa kinagisnan ninyo na ba ito?
O dahil sa wala ka lang panahon para magsakripisyo na alamin ang katotohanan?
Kung anoman ang inyong kinabibilangan na relihiyon ay tiyakin ninyo sa inyong sarili na alam ninyo ang kung bakit kayo naririyan.
Ang Orihinal na PANINIWALA noong UNANG SIGLO ng mga CRISTIANO ay si Cristo ay TAO at HINDI DIYOS. At ang mga nagpapatunay pa mismo ay ang mga TAGAPAGTAGUYOD NG PANINIWALANG DIYOS SI CRISTO.
Narito ang LINK:
ANG ORIHINAL NA PANINIWALA KAY CRISTO NG MGA UNANG CRISTIANO
Kaya hindi kailan man maaaring mangyari na MAGING DIYOS SI CRISTO, dahil hindi iyan itinuro ni Cristo, ng mga Apostol, at higit sa lahat ng Panginoong Diyos.
Mr. Vic please provide us arguments with its corresponding Biblical passages. Para magkaliwanagan na.
are you referring to me? i dont even read the bible! so why will i present arguments based on the good book? i only observe and draw conclusions from what i see and hear from the INC telecasts. I see bigotry in the guise of concern for everyones’ eternal soul.
The INC believes they alone will be saved. Sufficient for me to see that this is a cult of bigots. out to scare everyone with eternal damnation! ano ang dahilan? real concern for souls or their pockets?
nyahahahaha. kinokontra nya ang HINDI NYA NAUUNAWAAN. bilib talaga ako sa inyo. maka kontra lang kahit sablay. bwahahahaha
Tamaaaaa . INC , lahat galing Bibliya.
Pero sa tingin ko po, pag may mga nanguusig sa aten, wag po natin silang patulan in a way na iisipin nilang ang ‘rude’ natin. Let’s explain to them calmly. Makipagdebate tayo ng maayos. Hindi ung nagmumurahan, kasi pag nagmura tayo, pag minura nating mga INC ung mga nanguusig satin, walang magandang madudulot un.
Let’s all spread love and let’s try to understand each other. INC should try to understand others first, para mapakinggan din nila tayo with understanding. Tip lang naman po. 
May kausap po ako ngayong malakas mangusig sa INC eh, pero i’ll try hard para maliwanagan na rin siya. 
— Angel. 
Before you post some statement about religion specially Roman catholic church, you should know all the details…
Bible: one God, the Father in heaven
Iglesia ni Cristo: one God, the Father in heaven
RCC: trinity, based on pagan Babylonian triune god
- first GOD is the FATHER, JESUS is the SON, and because of the holy spirit Jesus was born.
this is just one thing that you who post this is ignorant.
LOL. and the three are all Gods, right? so you read “ONE”, and you think “THREE”?
@Jusjus, sayang ang pagpapaliwanag sa mga taong sarado na ang kaisipan. Gaya nga ng sabi, SA MGA TAONG DI NANINIWALA, WALANG PALIWANANG ANG SASAPAT. Ang mga miyembro ng INC ay mababaw ang pagkakaunawa sa bibiliya. Hindi na ako magtataka sapagkat bawal sa mga ordinaryong miyembro nila ang humawak ng bibliya. Tanging PASUGO lamang ang nahahawakan nila at nababasa–PASUGO na nilatha ayon sa kagustuhan ng kanilang HEAD OF CHURCH na si Mr. Manalo. Kaya wala silang oportunidad na magsuri ng mas malalim. Kung baga sa mga TURUANG ASO, kung ano lang ang i-feed sa kanila ng kanilang HEAD OF CHURCH, iyun lang ang kanilang alam. Tuloy, hindi nila alam ang mga MISTERYO NG BUHAY NI KRISTO. Kagaya ng HOLY TRINITY. Por que sinabing TRINTIY, tatlo na agad para sa kanila. Kulang sila sa pag-intindi na ito ay isa lamang SIMBOLO NG KAWALANG HANGGANG NG NAG-IISANG DIYOS AMA NA MAY LALANG NG LANGIT AT LUPA.
mas angkop sa iyo ang sinasabi mo. Mantakin mo Panginoong Jesus mismo ang may sabi na ang AMA LAMANG ANG IISANG TUNAY NA DIYOS, pero sa katoliko, pati daw sya at ang espirito santo Diyos din? kung hindi ko kayang paniwalaan ang Panginoong Jesus, wala na iba pa ang pwede magpaliwanag sa iyo.
sino kaya ang parang aso na sunud-sunuran? kami na Bibliya ang sinusunod o KAYO na pawang kathang-isip lamang ng tao ang sinusunod… buksan nyo ang inyong mga mata… hindi lahat ng nakagisnan o tradisyon dapat sundin… dapat alamin kung utos ba ng tunay na Diyos ang sinusunod nyo… buksan nyo ang mga mata nyo… kung gusto nyong maligtas sa araw ng paghuhukom.
SA JUAN 17-1-3 SI KRISTO AY NANALANGIN AT HINDI NANALAMIN MR. ANG…
Your comparisons are not facts at all. You make Roman Catholics appear pagans.For one, we are NOT worshipping the Blessed Virgin Mary. We are acknowledging her as the Mother of Lord Jesus Christ, our God. To help us intercede our prayers to the Lord, because we know that God loves, for she is a good servant of God. Even the first miracle of Christ in Cana happened when she intercede to help the people convince Jesus to help them with the supply of wine.
Always remember that a humble person pleases the Lord, not those arrogant people thinking high of themselves and detest others thinking they are ignorant to the love of God.
So, your God is the Lord Jesus, who also HAS A God. How many God’s do you then believe in? Remember, the Lord Jesus himself SAID there is only ONE GOD, the Father in Heaven.
Si KRISTO ay ANAK NG DIYOS NA NAGKATAWANG TAO… Common sense, ang PUNO NG MANGGA AY HINDI MAMUMUNGA NG SANTOL. Si Kristo ay “ANAK NG DIYOS”…ibig sabihin, ngayong kapiling niya ang kaniyang AMA, siya ay isa na ding DIYOS. Nang siya ay nasa lupa at nadadamitan ng laman, buto at dugo ng tao, siya ay TAO. Kaya hindi wasto na sabihin na si Kristo ay TAO LAMANG. Siya ay “DIYOS ANAK”… Kung sa tao, “PRINSIPE”…isa din siyang royal blood, hindi basta-basta tao. Ang HINDI KUMIKILALA KAY KRISTO BILANG ISANG DIYOS ANAK AY ANTI-KRISTO. Nakasaad po iyan sa biblia
ows ganun? “Anak ng Diyos” diyos na rin? tayo, anak ba tayo ng Diyos? o e di kung susundan ang imagination mo Diyos din tayo?
PEACE TO ALL!^_^ Why do we create disunity because of Religion? is this what God wants??? it seems now that we are competing at each other to enter to the Kingdom of God?? besides, religion does not matter.. nasa tao pa rin ang gawa. sabihin nyo mang bobo,demonyo, pagano o kng ano man ang ibang relihiyon, sa tingin nyo matu2wa ang Diyos? Anong tawag sa’yo na nagsasabi nyan?
alm naman natin na ang BIBILIYA ay dumaan sa mga maraming translation na maaaring ang mga nkasulat ay may kulang o kaya dagdag na maaaring iba ang interpretasyon sa orihinal nitong nais ipahatid… hindi ko po sinasabing mali ang BIBLE ngunit d2 naggagaling ang mga dahilan kung bakit tayo nagkakaroon ng conflict. bakit hndi n lng natin irespeto ang relihiyon ng bawat isa. sa huli, lahat tayo ay babalik sa Lumikha sa Atin, wala tayong kapangyarihang sabihin sa isang tao na hindi xa makakapunta sa Kaharian ng Diyos… Iisa lang ang Diyos na ating sinasamba.. iba iba lng tayo ng paraan.. =)
hindi pwede na dalawang magkasalungat na turo ay parehong tama at tutoo. isa sigurado mali at liko. alam mo na kung alin yun.
Paano mo naman natiyak na ang IGLESIA NI KRISTO ang tunay na simbahan? Dahil lang ba sa ang pangalan ng inyong simbahan ay IGLESIA NI KRISTO na makikita sa biblia? Una, hindi lang kayo ang simbahan na may pangalan na Iglesia ni Kristo. Marami ding kulto na ang ngalan ng simbahan ay SIMBIHAN NI KRISTO at IGLESIA NI KRISTO sa DIOS AMA. Huwag nating kakalimutan na ang biblia ay dumaan sa napakaraming pagsasalin, ang salitang IGLESIA ay maaaring mangahulugan ng maraming salita kagaya ng SIMBAHAN, SAMBAHAN, o DALANGINAN, depende sa lengguwahe. Ang mga simbahan ng katoliko ay tintawag ding IGLESIA noong panahon ng Kastila sapagkat ang salitang “IGLESIA” ay salitang Latin na nangangahulugan ng “SIMBAHAN”. Honestly, dumadalo din ako sa mga PAGPAPAHAYAG NG IGLESIA upang maging patas ako sa paghusga sa relihiyon ninyo. Sa una pa lang, hindi ko na naibigan ang aral sapagkat ito ay PUNO NG KAHAMBUGAN, sapagkat nangangako kayo na ang SINUMANG LABAS SA IGLESIA AY MASUSUNOG SA APOY NG IMPYERNO. Paano kung ang IGLESIA ninyo ay hindi pala wasto? Ibig sabihin, ang mga nasa inyo ay masusunog? Ang simbahan, sambahan, relihiyon at paniniwala ay interpersonal.
papano natiyak? binasa mo ba ang blog? ang turo ng INC ay galing sa mga Apostol at sa Panginoong Jesus, na syang mga unang kristiyano.
mr. rey… alam kong napakarami mong tanong ukol sa INC… mas nakakabuting magtanong po kayo ng personal sa mga ministro namin para lubos po ninyong maunawaan ang mga aral ng INC…
Sa pamamagitan ng mga hula na natutupad… dyan mo malalaman kung sino ang totoong sa Dios… hindi lahat ng relihiyon ay sa Dios, iisa lamang ang tunay na kumikilala at
tunay na kinikilala ng Diyos at ni Cristo na kanya…
try to respect the views of resbak. its the least that we “sanlibutans” can do. with all his “nyahahahas” and “bwahahahas” he clearly wants to insult anyone who does not share his beliefs.
according to them nasa dagat dagatang apoy lahat ng hindi kasapi sa kanila – mother teresa, buddha, gandhi are of course all rotting in hell. lahat rin ng mabubuting muslim (na kunyari sinasabi nilang mga “kapatid”…) ay kasalukuyang naagnas at nasusunog sa kumukulong asupere.
napansin niyo ba na never nilang inupakan ang paniniwala ng “kapatid daw” nilang na muslim? malamang kasing ulanin ng granada ang central nila kapag inilabas nila ang mga tunay nilang damdamin laban sa mga muslim. talk about hypocrisy to the max!
the other day i overheard one of their television ministers in a barber
shop “kung paano nila kinuyog ang mandurukot na sanlibutan sa luneta” tatawatawa pa na nakangisi na parang naka isa sila sa mga hindi kasapi sa kanila!
nilapitan ko siya at sinabi ko sa kanyang nakita ko siya sa TV. akala niya “kapatid” ako. sabi ko tama siya, “kapatid” ako sa ch. 5 nga lang pero hinding hindi ng INC!
in my opinion, any religion who says they have a monopoly of salvation is already fundamentally flawed.
proudly sanlibutan!
isa ka rin pala na hindi maka unawa. sanlibutan ka nga. Comparison yan. ang kontrahin mo kung mali ang mga sinabi ko na doktrina ng sanlibutan. pero kung tama naman at kitang kita na kontra sa doktrina ng Panginoong Jesus at mga Apostol aba tanggapin. walang mali ang umamin sa pagkakamali. ang mali ay yung alam mo na na mali ka ayaw mo pa magbago.
aralin mo ang turo ng mga papa ng mga katoliko. tignan mo yung turo nila na walang ibang maliligtas kung hindi ang mga katoliko. napansin mo, walang “Santo” na hindi katoliko. nyahahahaha/bwahahahahaha
Interesting. How you wrote Bible with a small “b”…clearly you know nothing of the Word of God. At kakaiba din..tinatawag Panginoon si
Hesus, ngayon tao lang ang turing nyo sa Kanya…di ba pagsamba din yung sa tao gaya ng pagsamba nyo kay Manalo? at di ba..pinakaayaw ng
Dyos ay sambahin mo ang mga nilikha Nya?so kung tao si Hesus, nilikha sya ng Dyos at di dapat sambahin dahil napakalaking kasalanan ito at sino mang at ang sinumang gumagawa nito ay di makakarating sa presensya ng Dyos kundi sa impyerno?
so batayan mo kung tunay o hindi e yung kung papano nalusat ng “b”? ang babaw.
Tinatawag ng Panginoon ang Panginoong Jesus DAHIL GINAWA SYA NA PANGINOON AT KRISTO ng Panginoong Diyos. Gusto mo kontrahin yun? aba nasa sa iyo yun.
Ang Diyos din ang nag utos sa lahat ng nilalang sa langit at sa lupa at sa ilalim ng lupa NA DAPAT SAMBAHIN ang Panginoong Jesus. Gusto mo rin kontrahin yun? nasa sa iyo din yun.
Kaming may katoliko ay NANINIWALA DIN SA IISANG DIYOS–ANG DIYOS AMA na may lalang ng langit at Lupa. Si Jesus Cristo ay ANAK NG DIYOS. Ang TATLONG PERSONA (Holy Trinity) ay isang DOGMA ng simbahan. Hindi ito isang LITERAL na persona na TATLO. Ito ay sumisimbolo sa KAISAHAN ng DIYOS AMA, ANAK AT ESPIRITU SANTO o ang tinatawag na TRES POTENCIAS (Ang ating kaisipan, ang ating katawang pisikal, at ang ating espiritu o konsensiya). Ang katangian ng TATLONG PERSONA ay makikita sa BAWAT TAO NA NILALANG AT ANAK NG DIYOS. Tayong tao ay taglay ang UTAK na simbolo ng AMA, ng ating PISIKAL NA KATAWAN na simbolo ni JESUS CRISTONG ANAK NG DIYOS, at ESPIRITU AT KONSENSIYA na sinisimbolo ng ESPIRITU SANTO. Ang hirap kasi sa isang relihiyon, masyadong LITERAL ang pagtingin nila sa mga aral ng KATOLIKO na ang mga aral ay balot ng misteryo NA TANGING ANG MALALALIM LAMANG ANG PANANAMPALATAYA ANG MAKAKATALOS. NAkalagay yan sa bibliya–may mga karunungang dapat itago upang HINDI MAKUHA NG MGA ASO.
Si MAMA MARY at mga santo ay hindi sinasamba ng mga katoliko kundi ito ay PINAPANGARALAN lamang at nagiging TAGAPAMAGITAN. Ito ay DOGMA din ng simbahan, batay sa mga himala at aparisyong ipinakita sa mga nagdaang kasaysayan. Tulad ng paglitaw ng INANG MARIA sa LOURDES at ilang mga bansa. Iyan ay DOGMA ng simbahan. Hind iyan maaaring kuning LITERAL.
Ang PAGBABAWAL NG PAGKAIN NG KARNE ay isa din sa DOGMA ng simbahan at HINDI LITERAL na nangangahulugan ng karne. Ang tinutukoy na karne ay SEX. At kung hindi man kumain ng karne sa ilang partikular na araw, ito ay bilang pakikiisa na din naman sa pag-aayuno ni Kristo. Isa isang paraan ng paglilinis ng aming mga konsensiya.
Ang HINDI NAMAN PAGPAPAKASAL NG MGA PARI ay tumutugon sa sinabi noon ni Kristo–HINDI MAAARING MAGLINGKOD SA DALAWANG PANGINOON. Common sense na lang, kung ang pari ay mag-aasawa, hindi niya magagampanan ng maayos ang kaniyang obligasyon sa simbahan.
Ang HINDI NAMAN PAGBABAWAL NG KATOLIKO SA PAGKAIN NG DUGO ay tumutugon sa sinabi ni KRISTO– HINDI ANG IPINAPASOK SA BIBIG ANG MAGPAPARUMI SA TAO, KUNDI ANG LUMALABAS SA KANIYANG BIBIG. Ang pagbabawal sa pagkain ng dugo ay utos pa mula sa LUmang TIpan, at sa pagdating ng ANAK ay binago niya ang ilan sa mga utos sa LUMANG TIPAN. At siguro, scientifically na din, kaya bawal kumain ng dugo noon ay dahil sa sanitary reasons na din. Hindi pa marunong magluto noon masyado ang mga tao kaya pag kakain ka ng dugo ay tiyak na may bakteriya pa iyun.
HUWAG SANA TAYONG MGA MGA LITERAL NA TAO, MAY MGA ARAL SA KATOLIKO NA HINDI NAMAN DAPAT TINGGNAN NG LITERAL. ISA IYUNG URI NG PAGPAPALALIM NG PANANAMPALATAYA. ANG MGA IGLESIA NI KRISTO AY MGA TAONG HINDI LUMALIM ANG PANANAMPALATAYA KAYA SILA AY NANALIG SA TURO NG ISANG TAO NA NAGNGANGALANG ERANIO MANALO, na ang pangalan ay hindi masusumpungan alinman sa pahina ng BIBLIYA. ANG KATOLIKO AY NANINIWALANG SI KRISTO AY ANG BATO at si SAN PEDRO AY ANG PUNDASYON. AT HINDI SI MANALO ANG PUNDASYON.
SABI NGA SA BIBLIYA, KAKAINGAT KAYO. SA MGA HULING ARAW AY DARATING ANG ISANG TAO NA MAGPAPAKILALANG SUGO NG AMA (SABI NI MANALO AY SUGO SIYA) ,PAPASOK SIYA SA TEMPLO AT UUPO SA LUKLUKAN NG DIYOS. HAHAMAKIN NIYA ANG MGA “PANINIWALA” AT “KAALAMAN NG SANLIBUTAN” SAPAGKAT IPAGKAKAKILALA NIYANG ANG TURO NIYA AY TAMA.
sige nga. kailan naimbento ang digma ng trinidad At sino ang nag imbento
cnu ba ang sabi ng bible na iisang tagapamagitan ng tao sa Dios?dba c Cristo lang bat nyu ginawang tgapamagitan si mary@santo nyu?hmmmpp kinukontra nyu ang bible nyan
Jesus is wrong if you add Father + Son + Holy Spirit in John 10:30. 1+1=2 where Jesus said I and the Father are one.Father(1) + Jesus(1) = twp of them? hahahahaha…stupid moron! You INCorporated 1914 All Rights Reserved Cults makes Jesus a liar, a mere man and Manalo an Angel. What a cult! Jesus said I and the Father are one, then so be it. Nothing follows, no more no less clear as daylight point by point. Not one in mission only but one in everything.
So if Jesus is God, who was he referring to when he(Jesus) said “I will ascend TO MY GOD”?
Jesus is referring to His Father God. Sa pag-aaral ng bibliya, kailangan din ng pag-aaral ng HISTORY. Noong mga panahon ni KRisto, ang “AMA” ay tinatawag ding “Master”, o “Panginoon”….
sa bale ang gusto mo sabihin kinakausap nya sarili nya? kakatawa LOL
Sabi ni Kristo Ak at ang Ama ay iisa. Walang sinabing iisa ang layunin, iisa ang mithiin sa John 10:30. Dinagdagan lang ng mga INCOrporation 1914 All Rights Reserved and enterpretasyon ng biblia. Mga gungong! Sinabi ni Kristo Ako at ang Ama ay iisa, e di iisa sila, wala naman sinabing iisa sa isip, iisa sa pakay! Ako at ang Ama ay iisa(tapos period na) wala nang sumonod kaya huwag ninyong dagdagan mga ngasis na INCorporated 1914 All Right Reserved.
iisa? sa anong paraan sila iisa? iisang Diyos? o sige nga sino tinutukoy ng Panginoong Jesus nang sabihin nya na “aakyat sya sa kanyang Dios”?
“aakyat sa kaniyang DIos”? Tila nakalimutan mo na ang wastong sinabi ni KRisto ay “Dios Ama?” May Ama…ibig sabihin, siya ay Anak ng Diyos. Samakatuwid, si KRisto, ay ANak NG DIYOS. Oo, nagkatawang TAO siya sa Lupa. Dito sa daigdig, siya ay TAO, pero taglay niya ang katangian ng isang DIYOS. Wag nyo namang ipagsawalang bahala ang pagiging diyos ni Kristo. Kung hindi, kayo ay mga ANTI-KRISTO. Para maintindihan ninyo ng mabuti, ang mga propesyonal ay may mga titulo sa kanilang pangalan. Halimbawa, Doktor, Engr., Prop…. Tao sila pero may titulo. Wag nyong iignore ang titulo ni KRisto bilang DIYOS ANAK.
at saan mo naman napulot yang dogma nyo na “titulong Diyos Anak” aber? sa mga pagano na naman?
Mr. Rey… ang Biblia ay nakalihim sa hiwaga.. may mga salitang hindi yun ang siyang pakuhulugan… kung may pagkakataon po kayong makipag-usap sa mga Ministro at manggagawa ng INC ay pwede po kayong magtanong…
mahirap kasi tanggapin ang KATOTOHANAN..
lalo na kung alam niyong mali po kau.
–ROMA 16:16
Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the CHURCHES OF CHRIST greet you.
what is tagalog of churches of Christ??
IGLESIA ni ??? what?? is it KATOLIKO.??
no..
CHRIST=CRISTO.
and another thing..
ung XMAS nio..
mai nkalagay ba sa BIBLE na EXACT date kung kelan pinanganak c JESUS??
WALA naman po diba.?
^_^ Go inc
I beg to disagree Sharm Anne. Wag sana nating kalilimutan na ang biblia na hawak natin ngayon, anunmang version iyan, ay nagdaan sa numerous translation. Ang Salitang “IGLESIA” ay maaaring mangahulugan ng “Simbahan”, “Sambahan”,o “Dalanginan”. Kaya hindi sapat na angkinin ng Iglesia ni Cristo na ang relihiyon ninyo ang siyang tinutukoy sa biblia. Una, sinabi ni Kristo kay Pedro, “Sa batong ito ay itatayo ko ang pundasyon”. Ang Katoliko ay naniniwalang si Pedro ay ang “Bato”,at si KRisto ay ang “Pundasyon”. Sa makatuwid, kaming may katoliko ay kinikilala si San PEdro na bato ng aming relihiyon, at si KRisto ang nag-iisang pundasyon. Matanong ko lang, kayong mga INC, sino ba ang “founder” at “Head of Church” ninyo? Diba, ang taong si Manalo na nagpapakilalalang “Sugo ng Diyos”? Nakakapangilabot…
Ang Pasko naman ng katoliko ay isang Tradisyon. Panahon pa lang ni KRisto, mayroon nang Paskuwa. At maging siya ay sumusunod sa tradisyon na iyon ng mga Hudyo.
Payo ko lang sa mga myembro ng INC., subukan ninyong buklatin ang bibliya at wag lang ang PASUGO. Para kayo ay makapagsaliksik ng wasto at sapat. Saka kayo mag kuro.
ang liwanag ng blog. nagbabasa ka ba? nauunawaan mo ba binabasa mo? ang ULO NG INC at FOUNDER NITO ay ang Panginoong Jesus MISMO.
o sige nga, saan sa bible nakalagay na ipagdiwang ang birthday ng Panginoong Jesus kada December 25. Saan din sa bible na kailangan may Christmas tree, christmas lights, Santa Claus, simbang gabi, etc, etc.
Payo ko din sa iyo, ikaw ang magbuklat ng bible. una mo basahin mo yung 1 Timothy 4:1,3.
Mr. Ang, maaari po kayong magtanong sa sinumang Pari o Pastor nyo kung nasa Biblia ba na Dec.25 ang kapanganakan ni Cristo…. kung ang babasahin nila ay Biblia, maniwala ka sa aral nyo pero kung di sa Biblia.. dapat po ay maghanap ka ng katotohanan… isama mo ang INC sa mga relihiyong sasaliksikin mo…
Umm..pacomment po.
“Payo ko lang sa mga myembro ng INC., subukan ninyong buklatin ang bibliya at wag lang ang PASUGO. Para kayo ay makapagsaliksik ng wasto at sapat. Saka kayo mag kuro.”-you’re speaking to yourself.
“Ang Pasko naman ng katoliko ay isang Tradisyon. Panahon pa lang ni KRisto, mayroon nang Paskuwa. At maging siya ay sumusunod sa tradisyon na iyon ng mga Hudyo.”-you mean PASKUWA=PASKO? Kung susundin yung premise ninyo, it would imply that Jews are celebrating the Lord’s birthday bago pa siya dumating..How odd.
Yung PASKO po ay hinango sa pistang pagano na “Saturnalia”. Christianized festival lang po yun,galing sa tradisyon ng mga pagano, ibig sabihin wala sa Bibia.
At, yung PASKUWA,ay ang PASSOVER, ipinagdiriwang ng mag Judio bilang pagunita ng pagliligtas ng Panginoong Diyos sa Israel sa Ehipto. Bakit passover? Sapagkat lumagpas ang salot sa Bayang Israel kung saan namatay ang lahat ng pmga panganay sa Ehipto.
Hahahaha. ” take Churches” eh mga iglisia ni Kristo”?ilan pala ang simbahan?
“The verse Iglesia most often quotes on this issue is Romans 16:16: “Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ greet you ” (Pasugo, November 1973, 6). But the phrase in this verse is “churches of Christ.” And it’s not a technical name. Paul is referring to a collection of local churches, not giving an organizational name.”
so bale “churches of Christ”? talaga. o e di hindi pa rin catholic church? nyahahaha. o baka ang susunod mo palusot komo churchES e LAHAT ng church. o e di kinontra mo utos ng papa mo na catholic church lang ang tunay na church? bwahahahahaha. tsaka na yung iba mong post kasi gaya netong isang ito nonsense lang naman.
ang masasabi ko lang ang catholic sumasamba sa rebulto ni PIETRO BANDENELI hndi un si cristo…hahaha cnasamba nyu ordinaryong tao tulad mo.??? hmmpp at ang rebulto ni mary @ng santo gnagawa daw nila na tagapamagitan hmmmm…. cnu ba ang nag iisang tagapamagitan ng tao sa Dios accrding sa bible ??? dba si Cristo lang…..hahaha catholic tlga ksi gumagawa ng sariling doktrina.. tanung kolang sa mga katoliko maliligtas ba kayo sa doktrina na gawa ng pari nyu?????
siguro ka bang maliligtas ka sa doktrinang binabatayan mo?
oo. siguradong sigurado. ikaw sigurado ka?
uhmm catholic po ako pero na try ko na pong sumamba sa INC. ung topic nila talaga eh about sa bible. and besides bible pa ng catholic un. so bat nagaway away kau d2? ung pag discuss kasi ng INC e very clear. basta madaming pagkakaiba sa catholic..
share lng po ako ng topic. try to read about ‘illuminati’
and try to read the blog of Angelica of Ecuador
To Rey de Leon Ang:
WALA PO SA BIBLIA ANG DOCTRINANG TRINIDAD..MAGING ANG
SALITANG “TRINIDAD” MISMO AY WALA SA BIBLIA.
SAAN NAGMULA ANG ARAL UKOL SA TRINIDAD?
(WALA PO ITO SA BIBLIA)
SINO PO ANG UMIMBENTO NG TERMINONG TRINIDAD?
SAGOT: INIMBENTO NI TERTULIANO…..Systematic Theology ,
Augustus Hopkins Strong,D.D.LL.
D..,P.304(639)
“The term ‘Trinity’ is not found in Scripture,…The invention of the term is ascribed to Tertulian.”
SINO RIN ANG UNANG GUMAMIT NG TERMINONG “TRINIDAD”?
SAGOT: SI TERTULIANO DIN………Eerdmans’ Handbook to the
History of Christianity,Tim
Dowley,ed. p.76,74,112
“Tertulian….He was the first person to use the Latin word ‘trinitas’(trinity). Tertullian later joined the Montanist movement.”
“The Montanist soon ran into trouble. In Asia they were excommunicated by the first synods of bishops known in the history of the church.”
“…Tertullian gave the Latin West a theological vocabulary that has hardly yet been bettered.He drew upon Stoicism and Roman law for his language, and taught that God was one being (substancia) but three concrete individuals(personae)…”
SINO PO ANG UNANG BUMALANGKAS NG DOCTRINA UKOL SA TRINIDAD?
SAGOT: SI TERTULIANO PA RIN……Systematic Theology,
L.Berkhof,4th rev.& enl. ed.
pg.82
“Tertullian was the first to use the term ‘Trinity’ and to formulate the doctrine, but his formulation was deficient,since it involved an unwarranted subordination of the Son to the Father.”
NAPANSIN PO BA NINYO ANG PINANGGALINGAN NG TERMINONG TRINIDAD?
ITO PO AY HINDI GALING SA BIBLIA. MAGING ANG SALITANG TRINIDAD AY WALA SA BIBLIA. LALO NA ANG ARAL NA NAKAPALOOB DITO.
SI TERTULIANO LAMANG PO ANG UMIMBENTO NG SALITANG TRINIDAD.
SIYA DIN PO ANG UNANG BUMALANGKAS(formulate) NG DOKTRINA UKOL SA TRINIDAD.
EH SINO PO BA SI TERTULIANO?
HINDI PO SIYA APOSTOL!
MATAGAL NG TAPOS ANG BIBLIA,BAGO PO DUMATING SI TERTULIANO.
KAYA ANG ARAL NG IGLESIA KATOLIKA UKOL SA TRINIDAD AY HINDI GALING SA BIBLIA…HINDI ITO ARAL NG DIOS.
ITO PO AY ARAL LAMANG NA LIKHA NI TERTULIANO…SAMAKATUWID,AY ARAL NA LIKHA NG TAO.
TO VIC VARGAS:UKOL SA JUAN 10:30
SABI NI VIC VARGAS;..SA JUAN 10:30.,,”..AKO AT ANG AMA AY IISA..” Huwag dagdagan..,(period).
EH D SUSUNDAN KITA.
HUWAG NATIN DAGDAGAN…,
PERO IKAW YATA UNA NAGDAGDAG EH..SINABI MO IISA SA PAGIGING DIOS.
WALA NAMAN PONG SINABI SA JUAN 10:30 NA IISA SA PAGIGING DIOS.
NAGDAGDAG KA PO ,..VIC VARGAS.
NILABAG MO YONG SINABI MO MISMO NA HUWAG DAGDAGAN..(period).
.,so are you saying “resbak” that all the things that catholic do is wrong.? then if so, mother teresa was wrong when she help people, i dont even see the point here, were all christians, but your just saying that, all of the other congregations is wrong and INC is only correct, and nakakatuwa pa ang tawag nyu sa mga taong ndi iglesia ay “sanlibutan”, pero ung mga sanlibutan na un ay sumamba din kay jesus, haha., ang pagkakabasa ko kasi Colossians 3:17 “And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him. ” besides ndi lang naman katoliko ang religion here, so a little respect, sana meron kayo nun, kung wala naman kumain ka nlng ng dinuguan, haha., joke,.. peace
disrespect pala ang magsabi ng tutoo? mali yata pagka intindi mo.
Mga kapatid, ayos lng mkipagtalo . . pero isa lang masasabi ko sa mga di kapatid na nag cocoment, intayin nalang natin ang pag-babalik ng Panginoong Jesu Cristo, sa Araw ng Paghuhukom. . .
Dun nyo malalaman kung alin ang tunay! . . .
Roman Catholics, sabi niyo veneration lang ito? venerating Mary and the saints? eh bakit may tatlong uri kayu ng pagsamba? Dulia-Saints, Hyperdulia-Mary and Latria-Holy Trinity.
Nagdadasal kayu sa mga santo at kay Mary, na nakasaad sa bibliya na MALI, ang pagdadasal sa mga imahen o rebulto ay mali! dahil ang PAGDARASAL ay pagsamba sa DIYOS, eh sabi niyo veneration lang un?
Sa tingin niyo ba gusto ito ni Maria? HINDI! dahil servant din siya ni God, ok lang na i-reespect siya, pero ung gagawa na ng mga rosario,novena about sa knya ay mali! laht dapat kay GOD!
second, Bakit kayu gumagawa ng mga imahen at rebulto????? Nkasaad sa Bibliya at especially sa LAW OF GOD! na huwag sumamba sa mga rebulto o imahen! masama iyon! NEO-PAGANS ata kayu eh!
Guamagawa kayu ng imahen ni Jesus, eh mali nmn iyon! at ito ang pinaka-worst! gumagawa kayu ng imahen ng Diyos Amang Makapangyarihan sa alahat!!!!!!!!!!!! eh BAWAL IYO SUPER BAWAL!!!!! matinding kaparusahan ang matatangap niyo! tsk!
At ung pinagbabawal ang pagpapaksal ng mga pari? HINDI MAPIPIGILAN ANG PAG-IBIG! at nakalagay sa bibliya na pwedeng mag-asawa ang mga pari! pinipigilan niyo ang PAG-IBIG! sabi ni Jesus huwag pigilan ang Pag-ibig! bad!!!!!
sunod nmn ay ung HEAD OF CHURCH! ang head of church ay si JESUS! not St. Peter nor the popes! sabi niyo yung rock ay si peter? NO, ung Rock ay si Jesus! nakalagay sa bibliya si Jesus ay ung ROCK! at ang cornerstone! tsk mali nnman!
And then hinahayaan niyo ang mga popes na baguhin ang bibliya? binabago niyo ang bibliya! And then gumagawa kayu ng mga proofs para ma-suportahan lang ung mga dogmas katulad ng IMMACULATE CONCEPTION! walang nakalagay sa bibliyang ganun! maghanap kayu ng proofs!
Jesus Christ is our Lord, the son of God! yes they are united for He is the son of God, bestowed him the titles of LORD and son of God!
Siya ang mediator between humans and God! siya ang teacher na nagtuturo sa atin na sambahin lang si God The Father and Diyos na totoo! servant din siya katulad natin, siya ang prince of peace!
Siya at ang Diyos Ama ay iisa sapagkat sila’y mag-ama, like father like son di ba?
Hindi porket founder ng INC si manalo ndi ibig-sabihin nito siya ang sinasamba nmn! I’m sure kinalulugdan ng Diyos si manalo kasi, nagtatag siya ng isang organisasyon na dedikado sa knya, na mayroong paniniwala at pagkakaisa sa pamamagitan ng mga turo ng bibliya at gbay ng Panginoong Hesus! upang mapalapit sa Diyos Ama!
Siya ay mensahero rin ng Diyos, lahat tayu ay mensahero! so parehas lang kami kay Manalo, kung gagawin nmn ung gagawin niya! ipinaglaban niya ang FAITH niya dahil alam niyang ndi na tama ang mga turo ng RCC!
who are you to judge another servants?receive one who is weak in faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
why do you judge your brother?why do you show contempt for your brother?For we shall all stand before the judgement seat of Christ. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.
nasa gawa at hindi lamang sa salita yan at kung sa ano mang relihiyon yan. kahit magdebate pa kayo kung sino ang totoo o hindi wala pa rin makakapagsabi.ianalyst nyo man ang bible pagbalik baliktarin mo man ang nakasaad dun still wala pa din makakapagsabi kung ang inc o katoliko ang tama. hanapin nyo ang kasagutan sa puso nyo. kung sa tingin nyo tama ang inc. so be it yun ang paniwala nyo eh pero igalang nyo ang paniniwala ng iba, hindi tayo parepareho kung magisip. do your own works and HE will reward you!
who’s judging? it’s a comparison of doctrines. I invite you to further compare by visiting your nearest Iglesia ni Cristo chapel. Thank you.
false notions about the catholic church and the catholic faith (accusations that were made up and others are based on perceptions), why y bother creating a BlOG and naming it as “RESBAK- BACK AT YOU!”?.. as i can see, you guys are blinded by hate and anger, i just dont why? but let me ask you something? who started this discussion or who started accusing other religions of idolatry etc.? since when did this start? i suggest every INC member to research about the history of the catholic church and the doctrines. (focus on what does catholic faith says, not on human errors- cause humans are not perfect, we are all sinners and does mistakes. ewan ko lang senyo kung perpekto kayo, since birth, along with your churchmates..) – By the way, DITO SA LUGAR NAMIN, i have friends from INC and other religions, AND WE respect each others’ faith, no arguments and debates, thats why maganda ang friendship namin.. dito lang ata may ganito tsk…. this made me sad.. i dont wanna hurt anybody..
again I reiterate. The post is a comparison. truth hurts and that’s understandable. but cursing the messenger will not make the message untrue.
Gaya nga ng sabi, SA MGA TAONG DI NANINIWALA, WALANG PALIWANANG ANG SASAPAT. Ang mga miyembro ng INC ay mababaw ang pagkakaunawa sa bibiliya. Hindi na ako magtataka sapagkat bawal sa mga ordinaryong miyembro nila ang humawak ng bibliya. Tanging PASUGO lamang ang nahahawakan nila at nababasa–PASUGO na nilatha ayon sa kagustuhan ng kanilang HEAD OF CHURCH na si Mr. Manalo. Kaya wala silang oportunidad na magsuri ng mas malalim. Kung baga sa mga TURUANG ASO, kung ano lang ang i-feed sa kanila ng kanilang HEAD OF CHURCH, iyun lang ang kanilang alam. Tuloy, hindi nila alam ang mga MISTERYO NG BUHAY NI KRISTO. Kagaya ng HOLY TRINITY. Por que sinabing TRINTIY, tatlo na agad para sa kanila. Kulang sila sa pag-intindi na ito ay isa lamang SIMBOLO NG KAWALANG HANGGANG NG NAG-IISANG DIYOS AMA NA MAY LALANG NG LANGIT AT LUPA.
Walang turo ang INC na si Kapatid na Manalo ang “Head of the Church”. Ang katoliko may turo, ang Fafa sa Roma ang “head of the church”
Masakit talaga ang katotohanan.
INC bawal humawak ng bible? Nalimutan mo o hindi mo alam ang history ng Catholic church. Sa Catholic church kapag may bible ka papatayin ka.
kagulo na eh. haha.
sino daw nagsabi na ang Pope ang head of church? siguro sa very literal way siya. pero in deep understanding eh si jesus christ din ang head ng catholic.
tsaka balita ko dun sa pinapatay na catholic dahil sa paghawak ng bible eh dahil yun na ayaw nung mga pumapatay na magbasa ang mga tao ng bible. sinabi ba sa bible na dapat yung ministro lang o yung dapat lang na tao yung pwedeng magkaroon ng bible?
dogma nyo yan na ang Papa sa Roma ang head the Catholic church.
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Napakababaw mo kasi mag-isip eh.
Minsan nga laliman mo.
Oh baka ayaw mong laliman dahil baka malunod ka at baka biglang maiba pananaw mo sa utak.
Huwag kang maging literal.
Ang ilang bahagi sa bibliya ay may malalim na pakahulugan, kaya dapat maging mapanuri ka.
kakatawa ka. e kung yung malinaw at direkta hindi mo maunawaan, yung malalim pa kaya?